Headshot Posted February 9, 2016 Share Gwin didn't wear Specialized kit, he was on TLD The fact that he's happy with a stock frame seemed like a bold premature statement given how pedantic Gwin is. I guess there's alot of testing ahead for them. Thing is, Gwin can pin it on any bike. But in the game of inches and seconds whether he'll take any podiums on a new bike is anyone's guess really.Ya maybe - but this didnt happen overnight so he must have done some testing... The TLD kit would explain why Brosnan looked several degrees worse than Gwin, which is not to say the TLD stuff was great at all - I'm with you on the stars and stripes ugliness.In fact much of the recent TLD kit is damn ugly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capricorn Posted February 9, 2016 Share Yeah. From what he said, though, the YT frame was pretty much exactly what he wanted the Spaz guys to change the Demo to ito geometry. the cynic in me thought, just a second or two, that that comment by Gwin was a bit of a backhand aimed at spesh: "Literally, every change that I wanted to make to my last bike, geometry wise, was where their bike was now. I kind of had a laugh at that." seems like he wanted more changes, on a brand new design of Demo? . Interesting stuff that can be read into that statement of his. popcorn_skollie and Captain Fastbastard Mayhem 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mntboy Posted February 9, 2016 Share That's my thinking. Will see how he's riding, but he's from an MX background, and he's already got a top 20 (Lenzerheide iirc) so he could be a good shot. As much as I hate to say it though, the YT has more chance of being at the top under Gwin. Gah!Don't think that Mx is a deficit ito skills/ability in fact maybe an advantage? Seem to recall that all of Minnaar, Hannah (both) and the Atherton's all have MX backgrounds or use MX as part of their training. And indeed you recall correctly about Angel's top 20 performance, it was at Lenzerheide. He should learn loads under Gwin, as much as I hate saying it he is one hell of a rider/racer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted February 9, 2016 Share the cynic in me thought, just a second or two, that that comment by Gwin was a bit of a backhand aimed at spesh: "Literally, every change that I wanted to make to my last bike, geometry wise, was where their bike was now. I kind of had a laugh at that." seems like he wanted more changes, on a brand new design of Demo? . Interesting stuff that can be read into that statement of his. Have you seen the interview with Loic where they test the Demo out, have an idea RE a new link .... Spaz engineers go away and comeback the next day with a newly machined lump of alum for the team to test. Something tells me the Spaz boys are not holding back for Loic and the team. GLuvsMtb, Capricorn and Captain Fastbastard Mayhem 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capricorn Posted February 9, 2016 Share Have you seen the interview with Loic where they test the Demo out, have an idea RE a new link .... Spaz engineers go away and comeback the next day with a newly machined lump of alum for the team to test. Something tells me the Spaz boys are not holding back for Loic and the team. link, no problem. overnight special.Frame changes, wait. hang on. what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popcorn_skollie Posted February 9, 2016 Share Have you seen the interview with Loic where they test the Demo out, have an idea RE a new link .... Spaz engineers go away and comeback the next day with a newly machined lump of alum for the team to test. Something tells me the Spaz boys are not holding back for Loic and the team. Meanwhile at syndicate Ratboys like: 'What? you changed the tyres? Cool! lets pin it!' Can't remember where I read that but it made me chuckle. Captain Fastbastard Mayhem and justanotherbiker 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane_Bosch Posted February 9, 2016 Share Yeah. From what he said, though, the YT frame was pretty much exactly what he wanted the Spaz guys to change the Demo to ito geometry. Fully agreed on the development. And they're happy to accommodate that. Yeah that's called let's sell more bikes marketing BS. Busting whips for the camera in Fontana is a far cry from a race run in Val Di Sole. As Harry says in Day's of Thunder. There's nothing stock about a Stock Car. Capricorn and Captain Fastbastard Mayhem 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted February 9, 2016 Share link, no problem. overnight special.Frame changes, wait. hang on. what?http://www.pinkbike.com/news/specialized-gravity-team-testing-winter-2016.html http://ep1.pinkbike.org/p6pb13124049/p5pb13124049.jpg What's that? You say you'd like to see how a bike performs with a different flex characteristic on the back end? One (or is that two) chopped chainstay coming right up. While possibly not ideal for all tracks and riding styles, if there were to be a time and a place for such a modification now the team has some data to back it up. This is not something you'd likely see being tried for the first time in the middle of the season, but in off-season test sessions it's just one of the many many stones not left unturned. http://ep1.pinkbike.org/p6pb13124042/p5pb13124042.jpg http://ep1.pinkbike.org/p6pb13124043/p5pb13124043.jpg With only one link to share, Loris gets his chance to see how it performs once Loic has finished putting it through the paces. While Loic runs a coil spring, Loris has found that the airspring and likely its more progressive spring rate to be preferable on his Demo. Also of note is that Loic and Loris always go back to their base settings to close the session in order to fully understand the changes made. Sometimes for the better, sometimes not. Capricorn and Captain Fastbastard Mayhem 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capricorn Posted February 9, 2016 Share http://www.pinkbike.com/news/specialized-gravity-team-testing-winter-2016.html http://ep1.pinkbike.org/p6pb13124049/p5pb13124049.jpg What's that? You say you'd like to see how a bike performs with a different flex characteristic on the back end? One (or is that two) chopped chainstay coming right up. While possibly not ideal for all tracks and riding styles, if there were to be a time and a place for such a modification now the team has some data to back it up. This is not something you'd likely see being tried for the first time in the middle of the season, but in off-season test sessions it's just one of the many many stones not left unturned. http://ep1.pinkbike.org/p6pb13124042/p5pb13124042.jpg http://ep1.pinkbike.org/p6pb13124043/p5pb13124043.jpg With only one link to share, Loris gets his chance to see how it performs once Loic has finished putting it through the paces. While Loic runs a coil spring, Loris has found that the airspring and likely its more progressive spring rate to be preferable on his Demo. Also of note is that Loic and Loris always go back to their base settings to close the session in order to fully understand the changes made. Sometimes for the better, sometimes not. chainstay snip-snip was quite interesting. But if you are going to those lengths, and Gwin himself wanted to make frame changes, then has to wonder if they got that frame right. But that's from a consumer's perspective. Duane's quote summed it perfectly for the fans: "There's nothing stock about a stock car". Hairy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane_Bosch Posted February 9, 2016 Share But that's from a consumer's perspective. Duane's quote summed it perfectly for the fans: "There's nothing stock about a stock car".Even if they run "stock" frames they use offset bushings, Offset headsets, headset spacers, Custom linkages. Etc Etc.Yes the frame and swing arm might be stock but that's hardly stock IMO. These guys ride on a different planet compared to us plebs. Edited February 9, 2016 by Duane_Bosch Capricorn and Captain Fastbastard Mayhem 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLuvsMtb Posted February 9, 2016 Share Hmmm. I'm on the fence to whether this is going to be a Toyota and F1 or a Porsche and Le Mans story... IH8MUD 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headshot Posted February 9, 2016 Share Even if they run "stock" frames they use offset bushings, Offset headsets, headset spacers, Custom linkages. Etc Etc.Yes the frame and swing arm might be stock but that's hardly stock IMO. These guys ride on a different planet compared to us plebs.That may well be the top teams but there are still plenty of racers without this level of tech input methinks. Its not about the bike :-) unless it has a motor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted February 9, 2016 Share Aaaaaand YT is available in RSA. Roman Kumpers to WP Downhill Classifieds14 minsYT-Industries Bikes now available in South Africa!Enquiries - sa@yt-industries.com Edited February 9, 2016 by Myles Mayhew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skott5 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Aaaaaand YT is available in RSA. Roman Kumpers to WP Downhill Classifieds14 minsYT-Industries Bikes now available in South Africa!Enquiries - sa@yt-industries.com 48k for the CAPRA AL ... got the prices yesterday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skott5 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Sorry pricing as follows: Capra CF Comp - R 78,900.00Capra AL Comp 2 - R 59,000.00Capra AL Comp 1 - R 58,000.00Capra AL - R 49,900.00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizkit031 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Aaaaaand YT is available in RSA. Whaaaaat no man. Roman Kumpers to WP Downhill Classifieds14 mins YT-Industries Bikes now available in South Africa!Enquiries - sa@yt-industries.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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