News bot Posted October 12, 2016 Share We are voluntarily recalling all MY16 Venge ViAS S-Works and Pro level frames in cooperation with the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission (“CPSC”).Click here to view the article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adriandup Posted October 12, 2016 Share Any chance they have the same issue with the 2013/2014 Stumpjumper? This is exactly what happened to me & cracked the rear triangle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ttocs Posted October 12, 2016 Share Good Luck getting your warranty resolved, its only been 4 months since I sent the Specialized Flux lights back to Specialized as per a product recall. Their back up service and honouring world wide warranties in RSA is pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonky Posted October 12, 2016 Share Any chance they have the same issue with the 2013/2014 Stumpjumper? This is exactly what happened to me & cracked the rear triangle. I would try my luck with Spez SA and ask them nicely... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonky Posted October 12, 2016 Share Good Luck getting your warranty resolved, its only been 4 months since I sent the Specialized Flux lights back to Specialized as per a product recall. Their back up service and honouring world wide warranties in RSA is pathetic. I propose sending a complaint to Spez USA directly thru their website - they responded to my msg in minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badiejb Posted October 12, 2016 Share Good Luck getting your warranty resolved, its only been 4 months since I sent the Specialized Flux lights back to Specialized as per a product recall. Their back up service and honouring world wide warranties in RSA is pathetic.Hi Ttocs. Could you send me an email johan.badenhorst@specialized.com I would love to better understand your situation and help resolve it. Thank you. Iwan Kemp, varkie2, Long Wheel Base and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ttocs Posted October 12, 2016 Share I propose sending a complaint to Spez USA directly thru their website - they responded to my msg in minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headshot Posted October 12, 2016 Share Interesting issue. So the brake position on the seat tube causes a force acting in a direction that can cause the wheel to pop out the drop outs? Probably only happens if the QR is not as tight as it could be perhaps... JXV 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tjokkits Posted October 12, 2016 Share so now i wonder if spez will honor the recall if one bought the bike secondhand. coz i see one of them in classifieds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JXV Posted October 12, 2016 Share Interesting issue. So the brake position on the seat tube causes a force acting in a direction that can cause the wheel to pop out the drop outs? Probably only happens if the QR is not as tight as it could be perhaps...Did a quick force diagram and can't see how positioning the brakes on seat tube would cause the wheel to want to jump down out of the dropouts. brakes are almost in the optimum position for forcing the axle up into dropouts....as long as you are moving forwards when you apply brakes [emoji48] What it does do is put a big compressive load onto the seatstays whereas normally with brakes mounted on the seatstay you would get a downward force (shear) that is perpendicular to the seatstay and will try to bend it. So the seat tube brake are pushing the stays along their length towards the seat and toptube where normal rim brakes would cause a bending moment on the seatstay. These two designs would presumably need different carbon layups for best strength at the joint....maybe a designer or fabricator was sleeping...... Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk Edited October 12, 2016 by JXV Headshot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no calves Posted October 13, 2016 Share so now i wonder if spez will honor the recall if one bought the bike secondhand. coz i see one of them in classifiedsAccording to FOX (who is recalling some rear shocks) its illegal to resell a recalled product "Consumers should immediately stop using this product unless otherwise instructed. Retailers, distributors, and OEM customers should hold this product and stop sales and distribution until further instructed. It is illegal to resell or attempt to resell a recalled consumer product." On PINKBIKE this morning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lerouc Posted October 13, 2016 Share According to FOX (who is recalling some rear shocks) its illegal to resell a recalled product "Consumers should immediately stop using this product unless otherwise instructed. Retailers, distributors, and OEM customers should hold this product and stop sales and distribution until further instructed. It is illegal to resell or attempt to resell a recalled consumer product." On PINKBIKE this morningmaybe in the americas... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no calves Posted October 13, 2016 Share maybe in the americas...Wilder as die Wildtuin hierso Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headshot Posted October 13, 2016 Share Did a quick force diagram and can't see how positioning the brakes on seat tube would cause the wheel to want to jump down out of the dropouts. brakes are almost in the optimum position for forcing the axle up into dropouts....as long as you are moving forwards when you apply brakes [emoji48] What it does do is put a big compressive load onto the seatstays whereas normally with brakes mounted on the seatstay you would get a downward force (shear) that is perpendicular to the seatstay and will try to bend it. So the seat tube brake are pushing the stays along their length towards the seat and toptube where normal rim brakes would cause a bending moment on the seatstay. These two designs would presumably need different carbon layups for best strength at the joint....maybe a designer or fabricator was sleeping...... Sent from my SM-G935F using TapatalkThanks, interesting. So what Spaz are saying doesn't make too much sense if we look at the forces at play. They are saying the wheel pops out and then the rear triangle breaks. Sounds like it may be the other way around. Unless of course it has nothing to do with the brake at all... Reading it again, they say its just the hanger side that is replaced in the recall. Perhaps it was just not up to the task and fractured leading to the rear wheel falling out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JXV Posted October 13, 2016 Share Thanks, interesting. So what Spaz are saying doesn't make too much sense if we look at the forces at play. They are saying the wheel pops out and then the rear triangle breaks. Sounds like it may be the other way around. Unless of course it has nothing to do with the brake at all...Not sure the exact mechanism of the failures. I am only saying that positioning the brakes on seat tube does not (to me) create forces that would make the wheel jump downwards out of the dropouts. I doubt the brake positioning is the root cause. Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Showtime Posted October 13, 2016 Share I don't see anywhere in the article where it says the brake position is the cause? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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