2017 gut and distance

[Fat Boab]

You also have to admit, you took 10+ years to put on the weight, now because some oke in a diet book or tv advert reckons you can, you expect to lose it all in 6 months?

Sorry but not likely going to happen. You will lose the weight but it is going to take time and dedication there is no easy way out and no quick fix.

 

Remember when you think you are training hard and you are feeling tired, someone, somewhere out there is training much much harder and feeling much more tired.

When you are hungry on your diet, someone, somewhere out there is even more hungry. 

Wake up every morning and go give that person a run for their money!

 

I'm not a racer, but I imagine I'm training against, or 'racing' that other bloke who is sitting on my bike (and I don't ride a tandem). Just need to do better than him and I'm happy!

[Veebee]

Reality is that you have to find the consistency with your eating and training. You've been at it for a while now, but really only seem to get into gear when an event is approaching and then push to lose a load of weight in 4-6 weeks which really just leads you to failure when it doesn't happen.

 

You have probably heard it a thousand times before, but the truth is you need to make it a lifestyle and not just a crash diet. We are not kids, we have total control of what we put into our bodies so there shouldn't be excuses for not making things happen.

 

35 days to Shova, imo abit too late to make massive changes in diet and training.

[eccc whippet]

it is time for me to read and listen and understand what food i  enjoy eating so that it can be a life style change...the only reason i havent seen someone about this issue...budget is a bit tight.

 

I will load what i eat and hopefully someone in the know will advise what to change.

 

which app...fat secret or MFP ? they both seem to offer the same thing...fat secret seems easier to load food...MFP connect directly to strava. 

[eccc whippet]

I'm not a racer, but I imagine I'm training against, or 'racing' that other bloke who is sitting on my bike (and I don't ride a tandem). Just need to do better than him and I'm happy!

as above...

 

I have 2 challenges at the moment...first one my legs hitting my gut and the second hills. 

 

i cant see myself winning any races ...maybe a kom or 2 where nobody else rides and it would be nice to keep up with the group on the hills. 

[Fat Boab]

as above...

 

I have 2 challenges at the moment...first one my legs hitting my gut and the second hills. 

 

i cant see myself winning any races ...maybe a kom or 2 where nobody else rides and it would be nice to keep up with the group on the hills. 

 

Ride your bike. Keep it simple. Don't over-complicate it. Keep your hands by your sides. Get some balance. Learn to accept a bit more suffering (everyone suffers on hills, it's just that some go quicker up them per unit of suffering).

 

And the solutiions/s is not an app, nor a new bike bike, nor a fancy diet, nor some muti. The solution lies within.... The rest are merely aids. 

[Veebee]

as above...

 

I have 2 challenges at the moment...first one my legs hitting my gut and the second hills. 

 

i cant see myself winning any races ...maybe a kom or 2 where nobody else rides and it would be nice to keep up with the group on the hills. 

 

Just incase you need to be reminded of this... We always suffer !!

 

[eccc whippet]

a bit of moral support or a kick in the butt is sometimes all it takes to keep going...maybe the bike hub is not the place to be sharing...i should be at the AA for fatties.

 

as silly as this sounds Myles keeps me going...i cant let him beat me to below 100 kg.

 

its when i go quiet that things start fallen apart...these past few months have been easy... no worries about cycling or eating plans etc...and so the weight increased.

 

a few questions for the other fatties like me...

 

how many of you as children where made to sit and eat everything on your plate from a young age no matter what?

 

how many of you eat when things bother you? 

 

how many went to the army and learnt to eat really fast and as much as you could ?

 

How many of you have given up smoking and got fatter?

 

are on the road all day and dont take a packed lunch?

 

rely on your mother or wife to cook your food and pack your lunch?

 

work in an office or on a site where a vehicle arrives and sells junk food? 

 

please feel free to add anything i might have left out.

 

my biggest challenge...keeping my hands at my side...

 

not picking up that muffin or

 

digging in the fridge for left overs or

 

picking up the chocolate every time i bought a coke...thank goodness i have past that habit.

 

veebee i agree...and by moving up a group and chasing it eventually you catch up and get to sit and wait for the slower riders...you only get as good as the group you ride with.

[Fat Boab]

a bit of moral support or a kick in the butt is sometimes all it takes to keep going...maybe the bike hub is not the place to be sharing...i should be at the AA for fatties.

 

as silly as this sounds Myles keeps me going...i cant let him beat me to below 100 kg.

 

its when i go quiet that things start fallen apart...these past few months have been easy... no worries about cycling or eating plans etc...and so the weight increased.

 

a few questions for the other fatties like me...

 

how many of you as children where made to sit and eat everything on your plate from a young age no matter what?

 

how many of you eat when things bother you? 

 

how many went to the army and learnt to eat really fast and as much as you could ?

 

How many of you have given up smoking and got fatter?

 

please feel free to add anything i might have left out.

 

my biggest challenge...keeping my hands at my side...

 

not picking up that muffin or

 

digging in the fridge for left overs or

 

the picking up the chocolate every time i bought a coke...thank goodness i have past that habit.

 

veebee i agree...and by moving up a group and chasing it eventually you catch up and get to sit and wait for the slower riders...you only get as good as the group you ride with.

 

Nothing like a glib one-liner in these circumstances. Hartley's 'The Go-Between' opens thus, "The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there."

[mrcg]

Moral support: every human being has some form of eating disorder!

I am not fat (78kg on a 176cm frame) but I do struggle to lose weight. I empathise with some of those points you made and recognise some of them.

BUT the power is with you. Face your demons - see a specialist. Don't take your health for granted: it will come back to bite rather sooner than later. This is worth the investment. Scale back on entries or purchases for your bike, accessories or other superfluous things. Nothing(!) is worth more than your health, Get that in order first....then the rest will be a breeze.

Ride your bike as much as possible for fitness, health and motivation.

But first address those issues to really move forward.

Just my thoughts....

[eccc whippet]

mrcg...i know the health issue all too well...3 years ago i was taking a hand full of tablets...my last doc visit all my tests where clear except cholesterol...but it had dropped more than i had expected.

 

see a specialist...this has been suggested on more than 1 occasion...i am starting to think a head shrink more than a health shrink is required...even considered hypnosis. 

[Fat Boab]

a bit of moral support or a kick in the butt is sometimes all it takes to keep going...maybe the bike hub is not the place to be sharing...i should be at the AA for fatties.

 

as silly as this sounds Myles keeps me going...i cant let him beat me to below 100 kg. Use whatever motivation you can, however trivial.

 

its when i go quiet that things start fallen apart...these past few months have been easy... no worries about cycling or eating plans etc...and so the weight increased.

 

a few questions for the other fatties like me...

 

how many of you as children where made to sit and eat everything on your plate from a young age no matter what? Yes. Money was v tight.

 

how many of you eat when things bother you? Yes. Refer to 4 kg pick-up.

 

how many went to the army and learnt to eat really fast and as much as you could ? Didn't have conscription in the UK at my age.

 

How many of you have given up smoking and got fatter? No. Never smoked.

 

are on the road all day and dont take a packed lunch? Used to be yes.

 

rely on your mother or wife to cook your food and pack your lunch? No.

 

work in an office or on a site where a vehicle arrives and sells junk food? Used to yes.

 

please feel free to add anything i might have left out.

 

my biggest challenge...keeping my hands at my side...

 

not picking up that muffin or

 

digging in the fridge for left overs or

 

picking up the chocolate every time i bought a coke...thank goodness i have past that habit.

 

veebee i agree...and by moving up a group and chasing it eventually you catch up and get to sit and wait for the slower riders...you only get as good as the group you ride with.

 

Let me reciprocate by sharing:

 

7 years ago, I was over 120kg. Why? A desperately unhappy marriage and an inability to resolve that, led to me eating and drinking myself 'happy', or at least in the case of drink, oblivious to the unhappiness. I do not believe anything in my upbringing, or history, predisposed me to eat/drink excessively. I can't say the same about my inability to resolve an unhappy marriage however. I, and my make-up, played a full role in that.. 

 

I woke up 'one morning' and eventually realised I had health issues related to weight, lifestyle etc, and decided on that day to do something about it for me. During the last 7 years, I rediscovered my bike, I've lost nearly 40 kgs, a 7-figure Rand sum to get out of the unhappy marriage, and around 3000 kg of weight from my shoulders. Life isn't all sweetness and life, but I smile when I'm on my bike (maybe it's that new chamois cream?) and keep chipping away at my lot in life to try and make it happier, more worthwhile to myself and others, or whatever floats your boat. I'm more balanced, better see the value and impact of what I do on myself and others. When I consume to excess, I know it's more often than not, a coping mechanism and I ponder "what's up". Sometimes, I'm harsh with myself and directly address the issue. Sometimes, I give myself a pass (balance again). But I don't allow me, to sabotage me, because of me. Not again. And hopefully never again. 

 

If you search within, you'll better find why you eat/drink (insert any vice here) to uncontrollable excess. Tackle that root-cause, and the road forwards (note, I don't say the road back because our future happy place may be completely different from the one in the past), is easier to navigate.

 

The future may not even involve cycling (Yes I know, stone me. But I have a friend who persecutes himself for not getting around to cycling. But he HATES cycling and should sell his bike and find something else which he enjoys doing.), maybe it will.

 

Anyway, nothing more pious than a former-X, so let me shuffle off and search for a sticky bun!

[Veebee]

Ise, Lets not look for the excuses from the past. This is all mind game you playing with yourself.

 

I was always healthy, active and never overweight, until i moved to JHB and lived on my own. All I ate was junk food, take outs etc becuase life was just busy and there was no time. well that's what I kept telling myself. This was 11 years ago.

 

Think I put on about 12 kg in the first year, and kept going. At my heaviest I hit 107kg. in 2014 I was introduced to cycling, fell in love with it and I said to myself that if I want to improve and get quicker I need to get the weight down. I wasn't able to ride 10km around JHB without having to get off and walk up the hills.

 

3 years later, i am now at 83kg. It wasn't always easy but the results kept me motivated and being able to ride further and faster has kept me on track.

[FirstV8]

There has been a lot of discussion on the subject which i have enjoyed . One aspect no one brought up was age . If in my case i last rode at age 45 and at that stage rode a comfortable 2hr 40 min argus or a 4 hr  10 min Vasbyt what should i expect of my body now at age 65 and very motivated . I have lost 14 kg in 3 months with no real diet plan except for staying away from white foods , red meat , fizzy drinks and anything that comes in a wrapper from the shop . Im getting up to 160 km per week of training in with my goal being to be 99kg before i attempt my first organised ride . ( No race ) 

[Fat Boab]

There has been a lot of discussion on the subject which i have enjoyed . One aspect no one brought up was age . If in my case i last rode at age 45 and at that stage rode a comfortable 2hr 40 min argus or a 4 hr  10 min Vasbyt what should i expect of my body now at age 65 and very motivated . I have lost 14 kg in 3 months with no real diet plan except for staying away from white foods , red meat , fizzy drinks and anything that comes in a wrapper from the shop . Im getting up to 160 km per week of training in with my goal being to be 99kg before i attempt my first organised ride . ( No race ) 

 

As much as Mr Lancelot Armstrong has to answer for, he came up with some memorable phrases (or his spin doctors did?). Watch The Armstrong Lie, and when he's talking about his return from cancer surgery, he states "The bike always brings you back". Welcome back FirstV8!

[Fat Boab]

Ise, Lets not look for the excuses from the past. This is all mind game you playing with yourself.

 

I was always healthy, active and never overweight, until i moved to JHB and lived on my own. All I ate was junk food, take outs etc becuase life was just busy and there was no time. well that's what I kept telling myself. This was 11 years ago.

 

Think I put on about 12 kg in the first year, and kept going. At my heaviest I hit 107kg. in 2014 I was introduced to cycling, fell in love with it and I said to myself that if I want to improve and get quicker I need to get the weight down. I wasn't able to ride 10km around JHB without having to get off and walk up the hills.

 

3 years later, i am now at 83kg. It wasn't always easy but the results kept me motivated and being able to ride further and faster has kept me on track.

 

Posted above, by myself, but as relevant here:

 

 

As much as Mr Lancelot Armstrong has to answer for, he came up with some memorable phrases (or his spin doctors did?). Watch The Armstrong Lie, and when he's talking about his return from cancer surgery, he states "The bike always brings you back". Welcome back Veebee!

[eccc whippet]

the good news is i am back on track...everything else is not important because unless you are focused on a plan...nothing changes...other than getting fatter...i know it is taking a loooooong time.

 

i have a piece of paper with a few ideas for food during the day...it works for me...trying to find and load stuff on an app...we will leave that for the techno fellas. 

 

 

looking into my weaknesses...and figuring out ways to fix them.

 

fizzy drinks cut out coke completely not even coke zero anymore.

 

carrot muffins on the weekend...cut back to 2 this past weekend.

 

coffee and sugar...cut back to 1 sugar and 3 cups per day.

 

fridge snacking in the evening...chopped chicken into small pieces and leave it in the fridge...biltong is too expensive for now.

 

no more waiting for dinner and then eating enough to feed a stable of horses...now cook my own food the quantity i need and and 1 portion at a time...

 

preparing and packing my lunch ever day...this is a big must for me...without this...takeaways not good.

 

training...no need to focus on that for now...weight loss is the main focus...still doing the 30 min 80 + cadence spinning...twice a day if i can...1 hour just doesnt suit me...i can ride my bike for 7 hours...but 30 min is long enough for me on the trainer.

 

102.9 kg today...some will say...dont weigh every day...i say do what works for you....weighing everyday helps me stay focused.