Death by a thousand lashes - 1st Sky whistleblower

[Gen]

Sure here are a few

AG2R La Mondiale, Astana Pro Team, BMC Racing Team, Cannondale-Drapac, Dimension Data, Etixx-Quick-Step, FDJ, Lotto Soudal, Movistar Team, Orica-BikeExchange, Team Sunweb (ex-Giant-Alpecin), Team Katusha, Team LottoNl-Jumbo, Team Sky, TJ Sport (ex-Lampre-Merida), and Trek-Segafredo

You left out the pro continental teams as well as the continental teams.. you also left out every single rugby team on earth and don't forget the school rugby teams.[emoji6]

[jcza]

"I’ll say to the people who don’t believe in cycling, the cynics and the sceptics. I'm sorry for you. I’m sorry that you can’t dream big. I'm sorry you don't believe in miracles. But this is one hell of a race. This is a great sporting event and you should stand around and believe it. You should believe in these athletes, and you should believe in these people. I'll be a fan of the Tour de France for as long as I live. And there are no secrets - this is a hard sporting event and hard work wins it. Vive Le Tour."

[Pure Savage]

The rider himself, this massive whistle blower, said it was vitamins... why would he lie now?

 

If it was drugs, that is a whole other story - but we can't just change things to suite our angle.

 

He was also reported by a team mate - that should also show there is at least a team stance on this stuff...

Common sense on a Friday

[Pure Savage]

No mountain bike teams? Football teams? Rugby Teams? Athletics stars? Tennis Stars? And don't forget, the dirtiest lot of them all (well statistically speaking at least) - those damn golfers...

 

Why you picking on the poor roadies!

 

That Bolt dude is dodgy AF. .

[Patchelicious]

Patch you yourself have said many times that you never really followed pro cycling until recently..some of us have been around following cycling through all the drama and scandals for a long long time.. it is why when we hear dodge stories we don't seem to fall or buy the explanations, been said here so many times before, we have really heard it all before. We have seen the signs we chose to explain it away and in the end of the day all those little rumours all the little insignificant dodge but legal doings all made up the huge scandals.[emoji53]

Oh, my apologies, I wasn't aware that if you followed cycling for a long time that it buys you the right be biased.

 

If that's the case, I better stop watching now before I lose all sense of logic and reason.

[Pure Savage]

Nah, none of those are holier than thou. It's boring confirming what we know.

 

I'm not limited to cycling, my cynicism knows no bounds. That's why I'm a great forensic auditor and a better performance enhancement expert. Not in the sport enhancement sense.

 

 

You make us regular auditors look like super chilled

[Pure Savage]

Oh, my apologies, I wasn't aware that if you followed cycling for a long time that it buys you the right be biased.

 

If that's the case, I better stop watching now before I lose all sense of logic and reason.

Your 8000 posts makes up for your lack of time watching cycling.

 

PS, how the hell did you jump 2000 ahead of me? 

 

Have you been commenting on MTB threads as well???

[Gen]

Oh, my apologies, I wasn't aware that if you followed cycling for a long time that it buys you the right be biased.

 

If that's the case, I better stop watching now before I lose all sense of logic and reason.

Lol

 

You know that's not what I meant.. take your Friday gloves off ne.. I was just trying to explain why we (well I) comment the way we (i) do when it comes to certain things.

 

Yes you have read up a lot about the past doing scandals, this I know and you have plenty knowledge .. but you didn't live it man.. we were cut deep yoh.[emoji23] [emoji23]

 

 

PS I still need some company at the back during L'Etape see.[emoji111]

[Gen]

More importantly is Gaviria had a heavy crash during training yesterday.. oh crisis.

[carbon29er]

Oh, my apologies, I wasn't aware that if you followed cycling for a long time that it buys you the right be biased.

 

If that's the case, I better stop watching now before I lose all sense of logic and reason.

Biased?  At absolute worst cynicism is a balance to the commentary teams that don't seem to separate PR from fact.

 

Every era of winning cheat has had a better story to tell than the previous era's winning cheat.

 

That is all.

 

Enjoy the spectacle like the hillbillies enjoy WWE. But know it's not pure sport. But it is as close as it gets as there is no referee or umpire, the result is the result. Unless someone goes running into the jury room.

 

I tell you what Patch, you tell me what topics I can comment on. I'll avoid those that cause you to feel I am biased against idiots, long socks (although I have worn them 3 times for my last 3 rides) PPA and Sky. Gee, I'd hate for you to reach for the ignore button.

[finallygotabike]

I am a big fan of Team Sky but it just........just seems that the cookie is starting to crumble

[carbon29er]

More importantly is Gaviria had a heavy crash during training yesterday.. oh crisis.

Does that mean G is now a chance? Kirby won't know how to hide his boner.

 

Bring on Saturday.

[Patchelicious]

Nah, none of those are holier than thou. It's boring confirming what we know.

 

I'm not limited to cycling, my cynicism knows no bounds. That's why I'm a great forensic auditor and a better performance enhancement expert. Not in the sport enhancement sense.

 

 

Ok.... so its not doping in cycling that bothers you, its your personal distaste for Team Sky PR conduct. Then why not rather take them on on that front.

 

Thats cool, we all have the right to like/not like different teams/riders etc, but at least lets be honest about our motivation.

[Patchelicious]

Biased?  At absolute worst cynicism is a balance to the commentary teams that don't seem to separate PR from fact.

 

Every era of winning cheat has had a better story to tell than the previous era's winning cheat.

 

That is all.

 

Enjoy the spectacle like the hillbillies enjoy WWE. But know it's not pure sport. But it is as close as it gets as there is no referee or umpire, the result is the result. Unless someone goes running into the jury room.

 

I tell you what Patch, you tell me what topics I can comment on. I'll avoid those that cause you to feel I am biased against idiots, long socks (although I have worn them 3 times for my last 3 rides) PPA and Sky. Gee, I'd hate for you to reach for the ignore button.

I know its not, never claimed that it is. I have also never claimed that SKY nor any other team is clean.

 

I have just always said that it is unfortunate that they seem to be the only teams that is consistantly being criticized.

 

As for your last comment not called for, grow up and maybe people will actually take you seriously.

 

You are not going to "fight, bully or insult" me into believing you, but you could convince me if you were reasonable. I support your opinion in more areas than you know, but carrying on like a blood thirsty rabid dog doesn't do the cause any favours. 

[Patchelicious]

I truly wish that people were able to occupy a space somewhere between SKY Fanboy and SKY hater without getting attacked.

 

If I don't hate Sky that doesnt make me a fanboy, and I don't support them 100% unconditionally that doesnt make me a hater.

 

This Trump vs Hilary, we won you lost mentality is getting out of hand.

Do you realize that you can support some of their policies and disagree with some others without being called either a vegan transgender libtard or a KKK member.

[carbon29er]

Ok.... so its not doping in cycling that bothers you, its your personal distaste for Team Sky PR conduct. Then why not rather take them on on that front.

 

Thats cool, we all have the right to like/not like different teams/riders etc, but at least lets be honest about our motivation.

I've never hidden that they invite scrutiny with their mantra of transparency and superior management. I that I'm not buying it.

 

As regards your next post, I will put your reply down to misinterpreting my motivation. Believe it or not I would like to avoid discussing topics that give the impression of me being dogmatic and unreasonable. Maybe adding long socks didn't have the desired humorous effect but the others were a genuine invitation for censorship to ensure exactly your last point. If that is childish then I'm guilty.