PappaBear Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 Had an really entry level bike (giant boulder), bought a descent 7k bike December, and then I really started enjoying the sport! Just more fun and easy on the body the better your bike is.... Well, middle may I upgraded to a good dual susser..... Not looking back one bit! My point: If you're gonna ride a lot, make a big initial investment, if you know you're gonna ride once a weekend...... DONT OVERKILL!
Oliver Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 also, the bike that i bought cost me R1500 (new), and those el-cheapo suntour cranks etc. do NOT last, as well as the BB's etc. ive spent over R1500 on components and now have a SB Alpine with Alivio (don't laugh) all round - and a deore FD. jsut need to get decent front sus as well - basically anything other than rockshox or fox (the entry level fox fork costs over R5000 lol) is not reallllly going to give you the freedom of taking your ride anywhere.
Slowbee Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 25 pages? that's optimistic... And the hard or soft debate... shouldn't your wife be involved' date=' and in private? Kiddies access this forum you know[/quote'] heck kiddies dont need to access this forum to know, just go to school ......
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 If you've found a bike that you like, buy it. If you don't, you'll be comparing everything you get to it, and regretting not going the extra mile in the first place. And if it is a good buy, you won't regret it. Tell yourself that you'll spend just as much speccing your entry level bike up anyway. As for the hard/soft thing, it's really just personal preference. Ride what you feel comfortable with... ME, I'm a hardtail guy myself. But i do appreciate the advantages of a softtail. Go with what your heart says. Your head is seldom right in these instances
keith Posted June 4, 2008 Author Posted June 4, 2008 So Oliver are Suntour shocks not cool? It seems that all entry level bikes come with them though. Most of the bikes reviewed in Bicycling mag had them.
TNT1 Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 25 pages? that's optimistic... And the hard or soft debate... shouldn't your wife be involved' date=' and in private? Kiddies access this forum you know[/quote'] heck kiddies dont need to access this forum to know, just go to school ...... Not without their cell phones though
Oliver Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 and yes, suntour sus is crap lol... end of story. the xcm however has decent lockout system for the price though.
Canaris Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 Thanks for the opinions guys. I did see the article in Bicycling mag so I'm looking for one of those preferably (or similar). Most entry-level mtbs have Suntour shocks' date=' are these any good though? They not gonna bottom out on my first ride? I'm just looking to ride trails- nothing hectic. [/quote'] rather take out a bit more cash and buy more mid range, deore should be the "lowest" standard. THE purchase "bundle" at this level means good shock (rockshox or fox), which works out cheaper than upgrades afterwards
Oliver Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 the thing is, there's a reason why fox shocks start at 5g's, there's also a reason why suntour shocks are soft - they're designed for fidderent kinds of riding. my suntour xcm with lockout works VERY well on the road because it's soft and sucks in all the small bumps - but i cant take it to tokai and jump off 2 metre ramps - it WILL break my fork.
keith Posted June 4, 2008 Author Posted June 4, 2008 So I should forget about 'entry-level' because of shock quality? So mid-range will get me at least Rockshox and decent components.
Oliver Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 just dont get something thats gonna break and cost u more money. ure only setting yourself up for dissapointment. lord knows how expensive components are as stand-alone purchases... i really liked the specialized hardtail in the bicycling mag though... there'sn awesome ride for that price...
keith Posted June 4, 2008 Author Posted June 4, 2008 I'm gonna have a look at my LBS this weekend and see what they have. Cyclelab only has Trek though as I gave them a call and the cheapest they got is the 4500 at R5800. Wasn't planning on spending that much though.
Tumbleweed Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 So I should forget about 'entry-level' because of shock quality? So mid-range will get me at least Rockshox and decent components. entry level shocks come with elastomer stacks in the shock. midrange bikes like the giant thermos and rincons have shocks that are coil-sprung. this should be ample for what you need.
keith Posted June 4, 2008 Author Posted June 4, 2008 Thanks holy roller thats what a mate of mine said!
fandacious Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 So I should forget about 'entry-level' because of shock quality? So mid-range will get me at least Rockshox and decent components. entry level shocks come with elastomer stacks in the shock. midrange bikes like the giant thermos and rincons have shocks that are coil-sprung. this should be ample for what you need. i'm every mtb salesman's nightmare. I spent R4500 on a merida sub-60V. Its got cheap components. Cheap shock. Cheap everything. And yet I will kick 90% of the people here on MTB's butt. Its REALLY not about the bike. Save the money for beer. You really dont need to spend a fortune to get a bike you can enjoy mtb'ing on. Its an awesome sport and its "nice" to ride the best, but trust me - you dont need it
keith Posted June 4, 2008 Author Posted June 4, 2008 Fandacious what shocks has it got? You throwing a spanner in the works here by telling me all this!
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