porqui Posted October 31, 2018 Posted October 31, 2018 I wasn't aware that porridge pissing was a requirement for reasonable debate... People keep raising "fair and ethical" - is it fair or ethical to scalp someone out of R12,500 on a R14,500 item because they thought there would be low/no demand for their product? If the buyer had actual "fair and ethical" he would have offered the seller more (people are not shy to tell sellers their prices are too high so where is the balance if the price is way too low?). Is paying R2k for a R14,500 item fair and ethical to both parties? It is when he put it up for sale at R2k
PygaSchmyga Posted October 31, 2018 Posted October 31, 2018 So then your situation is not really comparable is it? KA-POW - great set up and take down! Depends how far you want to dig into the similarities... Technically NO two situations are 100% comparable, since they aren't the exact same situation backpedaling much?
Dirkitech Posted October 31, 2018 Posted October 31, 2018 there is separate and distinct law governing property - not relevant herehuh? that is literally what I said...
PygaSchmyga Posted October 31, 2018 Posted October 31, 2018 huh? that is literally what I said...yup - was agreeing with you
Eldron Posted October 31, 2018 Posted October 31, 2018 It is when he put it up for sale at R2k If that is your opinion then fair enough. Ultimately this example is extreme - in 99% of cases I'd be agreeing with you but this advert is so heavily skewed in favour of the buyers that it doesn't sit well with me. Edit: I don't know the exact details of the sale but this smacks a bit of taking advantage of someone else's misfortune. If the seller is a trillionairre that couldn't be arsed to train and decided last minute to ditch the entry for some champagne money then I guess my opinion would change.
greg_sa Posted October 31, 2018 Posted October 31, 2018 KA-POW - great set up and take down! backpedaling much?Nope, not at all.
PygaSchmyga Posted October 31, 2018 Posted October 31, 2018 It is when he put it up for sale at R2kNope. its not. Hub is full of predatory buyers, and sellers are entitled to change their minds when new information emerges, such as increased demand, especially if the underlying value or cost is WAY more.
PygaSchmyga Posted October 31, 2018 Posted October 31, 2018 If that is your opinion then fair enough. Ultimately this example is extreme - in 99% of cases I'd be agreeing with you but this advert is so heavily skewed in favour of the buyers that it doesn't sit well with me. Edit: I don't know the exact details of the sale but this smacks a bit of taking advantage of someone else's misfortune. If the seller is a trillionairre that couldn't be arsed to train and decided last minute to ditch the entry for some champagne money then I guess my opinion would change.Probably the most sensible comment on this whole affair
Dirkitech Posted October 31, 2018 Posted October 31, 2018 yup - was agreeing with youThank you for clarifying, I didn't understand at first
porqui Posted October 31, 2018 Posted October 31, 2018 Nope. its not. Hub is full of predatory buyers, and sellers are entitled to change their minds when new information emerges, such as increased demand, especially if the underlying value or cost is WAY more. Bit of a generalisation there me thinks.
Eldron Posted October 31, 2018 Posted October 31, 2018 I just hope none of the nay sayers ever make a typo on one of their ads - I'll be on it like white on rice, screen grab it and demand I get the advertised price! No take backsies or I yell AUCTION and do my best to destroy your hubcred* *Ok not really but that's my "what if" imaginary bollocks for the day.
greg_sa Posted October 31, 2018 Posted October 31, 2018 I just hope none of the nay sayers ever make a typo on one of their ads - I'll be on it like white on rice, screen grab it and demand I get the advertised price! No take backsies or I yell AUCTION and do my best to destroy your hubcred* *Ok not really but that's my "what if" imaginary bollocks for the day.But it wasn't a typo...
PygaSchmyga Posted October 31, 2018 Posted October 31, 2018 Bit of a generalisation there me thinks.sure, but the whole debate has a general flavour to it - we have been discussing buyer and seller issues generally. Funnily enough, I think that its probably the predatory okes who use the hub for buying and reselling that are most vocal on this point, as they feel entitled to demand the "bargains" that they unearth. They feel hard done by by missing an income opportunity.
Escapee.. Posted October 31, 2018 Posted October 31, 2018 I just hope none of the nay sayers ever make a typo on one of their ads - I'll be on it like white on rice, screen grab it and demand I get the advertised price! No take backsies or I yell AUCTION and do my best to destroy your hubcred* *Ok not really but that's my "what if" imaginary bollocks for the day. Didnt you complain about "what if" on another thread?
bertusras Posted October 31, 2018 Posted October 31, 2018 Nope - you are still wrong - SA law is no different. Let me quote SA case law to clear this up: "The publication of an advertisement offering goods for sale at a stated price is not an offer to all who may read the advertisement but merely an invitation to make offers: Bird v Summerville 1960 4 SA 395(N) 401D. This is referred to as an invitation to treat" There is no "offer" so there can be no "acceptance" - capice? You are wrong, the acceptance of an offer in law is a formally qualified (and materially defined) concept, one most certainly not fulfilled by calling "dibs" legally the advertiser had zero obligation to sell until an agreed upon price had been paid to him AND the goods delivered. Oh and I feel I HAVE to qualify that this is not an opinion but a fact. Turns out you learn something new each day. My mistake.
PygaSchmyga Posted October 31, 2018 Posted October 31, 2018 Didnt you complain about "what if" on another thread?What if he did?
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