Giant anthem advanced 0 2016

[Kai Baird]

Hi guys. Reletively easy question.

 

What are your thoughts on the 2016 giant anthem advanced 0? (the one with the rs1 forks.)

 

I think it's a beautiful bike, I'm just torn between a 29er and a 27.5.

 

My main question: given I'm as fit or fitter than guys on 29ers whilst doing climbs on xc, will I be really really less efficient?

 

It's not to say absolutely everybit of my riding is going to be xc. I'll be doing some trail now and then. I just don't want to be nehing all the 29er guys because I'm on a 27.5(650b)

 

Appreciate it guys.

 

If you have the time to email me please do so: kaibaird2000@gmail.com

[Red Bird]

Emily Batty has been riding 27.5 wheels and been getting podiums often. You’ll have lots of fun on the trails with it, at least I find it more playful. If you were going to do more marathons I’d go 29er.

[slickjay007]

Welcome to the Hub. Reading between the lines of your post, i think the bike isn't going to make any difference seeing as you are extremely fit so you suggested.

 

Sounds like you all about beating everybody on the trails so go for the lightest bike then.

[Captain Fastbastard Mayhem]

For pure efficiency, a niner will always be better than a 275 due to the increased rollover efficiency. For pure xc that would be my vote.

[DieselnDust]

the 2016 with the RS-1 is a brilliant bike. The fork is nowhere near as flexy as reported by some especially in 27.5 guise as it has shorter upper legs so less displacement in the twisting.

 

27.5vs 29 well that neither here not there. I don't find there to be any difference in speed between a 27.5 vs a 29er with the gearing corrected for the appropriate development.

 

At the moment 27.5 XC bikes are selling quite cost effectively because Our market is 29er viskrik so you can pick up a great deal on the 27.5.Anthem.

 

If you're on the taller side of 1.8m then I'd say rather opt for a 29er. If shorter than 1.8m then its really how comfortable you feel on the bike. The 27.5 Anthem is a real rocket ship. Its very responsive to pedal input.

 

so how tall are you?

how much are you paying for the Anthem if you are taking it?

[Grease_Monkey]

I'm just gonna repeat what I overheard a salesperson tell a customer in a bike shop one day (paraphrase):

 

Salesperson: "Ja, the 27.5 wheels are more for downhill guys, 29ers are faster on these types of bikes" (with reference to a marathon bike).

 

Customer: "Are they alot faster?"

 

Salesperson: "Yes, you're looking at at least 10-15% improvement in speed over the smaller wheels".

 

   

[Kai Baird]

the 2016 with the RS-1 is a brilliant bike. The fork is nowhere near as flexy as reported by some especially in 27.5 guise as it has shorter upper legs so less displacement in the twisting.

 

27.5vs 29 well that neither here not there. I don't find there to be any difference in speed between a 27.5 vs a 29er with the gearing corrected for the appropriate development.

 

At the moment 27.5 XC bikes are selling quite cost effectively because Our market is 29er viskrik so you can pick up a great deal on the 27.5.Anthem.

 

If you're on the taller side of 1.8m then I'd say rather opt for a 29er. If shorter than 1.8m then its really how comfortable you feel on the bike. The 27.5 Anthem is a real rocket ship. Its very responsive to pedal input.

 

so how tall are you?

how much are you paying for the Anthem if you are taking it?

 

 

 

 

Im 1.8 on the dot.

 

I can pick one up that hasn't been used a lot at all for 28ish

[DieselnDust]

For pure efficiency, a niner will always be better than a 275 due to the increased rollover efficiency. For pure xc that would be my vote.

 

 

the difference in diameter is not significant enough for the "always be better due to the increased rollover efficiency". What exactly is that? How do you measure it? Sounds like marketing nonsense.

 

As noted in the other thread on the topic, there are riders using 27.5 wheels at World Cup XCo level and are competing with 29ers at no disadvantage. This mocks the 29er for XCO is way better cock an bull story that has become entrenched. the overall design of the bike is what matters.

Pivot's Mach 4 is a super hot 27.5 and the bike and its riders compete with 29ers and their riders.

Emily Batty has said the 27.5 suits her better. In fact a lot of ladies are starting to re-look at the wheelsize in their quest to keep up with Jolanda Neff.

 

Wheel size choice becomes more a matter of selecting the appropriate bike for the rider and each person is thankfully different.

 

Wheelsize is definitely a ride it before you buy it item on the purchase decision.

[DieselnDust]

Im 1.8 on the dot.

 

I can pick one up that hasn't been used a lot at all for 28ish

 

 

I'd encourage you to give it a whirl and see how it feels.

the only draw backs I can see are 

1. reduced availability of a wide range of XC racing oriented 27.5 tyres
2. wheelsize classicism on the trails

[Captain Fastbastard Mayhem]

I'm just gonna repeat what I overheard a salesperson tell a customer in a bike shop one day (paraphrase):

 

Salesperson: "Ja, the 27.5 wheels are more for downhill guys, 29ers are faster on these types of bikes" (with reference to a marathon bike).

 

Customer: "Are they alot faster?"

 

Salesperson: "Yes, you're looking at at least 10-15% improvement in speed over the smaller wheels".

 

???? definitely worth it. ????

 

10-15% ?? Would love that improvement.

[Captain Fastbastard Mayhem]

the difference in diameter is not significant enough for the "always be better due to the increased rollover efficiency". What exactly is that? How do you measure it? Sounds like marketing nonsense.

 

As noted in the other thread on the topic, there are riders using 27.5 wheels at World Cup XCo level and are competing with 29ers at no disadvantage. This mocks the 29er for XCO is way better cock an bull story that has become entrenched. the overall design of the bike is what matters.

Pivot's Mach 4 is a super hot 27.5 and the bike and its riders compete with 29ers and their riders.

Emily Batty has said the 27.5 suits her better. In fact a lot of ladies are starting to re-look at the wheelsize in their quest to keep up with Jolanda Neff.

 

Wheel size choice becomes more a matter of selecting the appropriate bike for the rider and each person is thankfully different.

 

Wheelsize is definitely a ride it before you buy it item on the purchase decision.

 

Ceterus Paribus, dear fellow. A 29er wheel will roll more efficiently than a 275 or 26, assuming the same conditions and tyres etc etc. Not much more efficiently, but the advantage is still there

[Pulse]

At the OPs height, and type of riding - 29r

[Grease_Monkey]

???? definitely worth it. ????

 

10-15% ?? Would love that improvement.

Bro, I'm telling you, get a 29er and you will climb like N1NO

[Captain Fastbastard Mayhem]

Bro, I'm telling you, get a 29er and you will climb like N1NO

Sold.

????

[MrJacques]

Ask the bike shop for a test ride on both and see which one you like better.

[DieselnDust]

Ceterus Paribus, dear fellow. A 29er wheel will roll more efficiently than a 275 or 26, assuming the same conditions and tyres etc etc. Not much more efficiently, but the advantage is still there

Roll more efficiently in what way and how is this measured?

 

Lovely Latin there dear fellow but if you do this you will realise that they get to the same point at the same time