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I am new to mtb king so please don't stone me for my question.

I already got some rude comments based on my question on wheel size.

Two questions:

1. Are the new gear option 1x11 going to help me with uphills and acclerarion more than the 3x 9 that I have?

2. What is meant by rolling Tyre choice?

 

Thanks for you taking the time to explain and giving me positive info

Posted

Two questions:

1. Are the new gear option 1x11 going to help me with uphills and acclerarion more than the 3x 9 that I have?

 

The short answer is no...1x11 will not necessarily make climbing easier than 3x9. 

But we can elaborate on this later so you gain a better understanding of gearing and what the differences are between them.

 

2. What is meant by rolling Tyre choice?

 

Tyres come in various thread patterns. And as with all things there is always a compromise.

The short and oversimplified answer is that the more aggressive a tyre's tread pattern is.

The better it grips at the expense of rolling speed. Think bigger knobs.

The more subtle the tyre's tread pattern is. The faster it rolls at the expense of grip. 

The ideal solution is often to choose a fast rear tyre and a grippy front tyre.

 

Posted

I am new to mtb king so please don't stone me for my question.

I already got some rude comments based on my question on wheel size.

Two questions:

1. Are the new gear option 1x11 going to help me with uphills and acclerarion more than the 3x 9 that I have?

2. What is meant by rolling Tyre choice?

 

Thanks for you taking the time to explain and giving me positive info

 

As a newby, you'd have to build strength and fitness first before worrying too much about gears etc. 

But to ask your questions;

1. No, or it depends. 1 x 11 systems' only advantage is user friendliness or ease of use. You'd most likely have the same gear ratios and probably higher range with a 3 x 9 drive train.

 

2. Rolling resistance I assume is what you meant. Tires with "smaller" knobs tend to roll easier and have less resistance (i.e. friction) than tires with bigger knobs.

So it will technically be easier to pedal, and therefore faster. However, in most cases the effects aren't immediately that apparent, and you'll most likely experience it over a longer distance where you'll feel more fatigued with tires with higher rolling resistance. 

Posted

I am new to mtb king so please don't stone me for my question.

I already got some rude comments based on my question on wheel size.

Two questions:

1. Are the new gear option 1x11 going to help me with uphills and acclerarion more than the 3x 9 that I have?

 

1x11 cassette will have a 42T granny or a 46T granny

a 3x9 will have a 34T. 

Assume a 30T front for the 1x11 and 22T granny chainring for the 3x9 the math works out as

 

30/42 = 0.71 gear ratio or 30/46 = 0.65

vs

22/34 = 0.65 gear ratio 

 

 

so both systems can gideliver a super low gear for going up hills more easily.

2. What is meant by rolling Tyre choice?

 

Thanks for you taking the time to explain and giving me positive info

 

Typically with tyre choice we;re referring to how easily the tyre rolls. Tyres with bigger and deeper tread blocks tend to roll with  greater difficulty than a tyre will closely stacked shallow tread blocks.

IT starts to get complicated when we start talking about rubber compound and casing construction.

For marathon typically you want a tyre that rolls fast but offers enough grip to give you confidence on the descents.

this is another can of worms where opinions will deliver sufficient heat to warm a hanger on a cold winters day

Posted

Gearing, tyre and bike geometry choices are typically best made by taking into account what type of riding you are doing.

 

Long gravel grinding days

 

vs

 

Lots of rock climbing

 

vs 

 

Lots of single-track descent

 

vs 

 

XCO circuit racing

 

 

All of these will require different choices in the above mentioned 3 categories if you REALLY want to stick with the front riders and be the fastest you can be. You typically can get a do-it-all setup, but just like a Jack-of-all-trades it will be the master of none.

 

You are going to get as many opinions on here as you would like, chances are you won't like allot of them.

 

The more detailed description of where you are riding, what your ambitions are and how much money you would like to spend will get you the most detailed feedback.

 

Otherwise you will get generic feedback which should be sufficient, but not perfect.

 

Happy riding

Posted

 

Two questions:

1. Are the new gear option 1x11 going to help me with uphills and acclerarion more than the 3x 9 that I have?

 

The short answer is no...1x11 will not necessarily make climbing easier than 3x9.

But we can elaborate on this later so you gain a better understanding of gearing and what the differences are between them.

 

2. What is meant by rolling Tyre choice?

 

Tyres come in various thread patterns. And as with all things there is always a compromise.

The short and oversimplified answer is that the more aggressive a tyre's tread pattern is.

The better it grips at the expense of rolling speed. Think bigger knobs.

The more subtle the tyre's tread pattern is. The faster it rolls at the expense of grip.

The ideal solution is often to choose a fast rear tyre and a grippy front tyre.

 

Awesome thanks so much
Posted

If I had to look back to myself when I first started out, the only advice I'd give is to not overthink it, and go out and ride your bike. The differences and advantages at that skill level is negligible, so don't worry about it just yet. Time spent thinking and researching could be time spent riding and improving your fitness and skill.

Posted

If I had to look back to myself when I first started out, the only advice I'd give is to not overthink it, and go out and ride your bike. The differences and advantages at that skill level is negligible, so don't worry about it just yet. Time spent thinking and researching could be time spent riding and improving your fitness and skill.

So you are telling me that instead of sitting at work doing my "work" and reading on BikeHub, I should rather be out on my bike...??!!

 

DEAL!! .(Bertus, will you please handle my boss and wife as I get my base training up to form)

 

PS. Marilou, the funny font means I am being sarcastic. Just thought I would bring you up to speed with this unwritten rule of BikeHub

Posted

If I had to look back to myself when I first started out, the only advice I'd give is to not overthink it, and go out and ride your bike. The differences and advantages at that skill level is negligible, so don't worry about it just yet. Time spent thinking and researching could be time spent riding and improving your fitness and skill.

Awesome advice
Posted

So you are telling me that instead of sitting at work doing my "work" and reading on BikeHub, I should rather be out on my bike...??!!

 

DEAL!! .(Bertus, will you please handle my boss and wife as I get my base training up to form)

 

PS. Marilou, the funny font means I am being sarcastic. Just thought I would bring you up to speed with this unwritten rule of BikeHub

Lol thanks

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