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Good morning all,

Im fairly new to MTB and currently riding a Silverback Stride Comp. 

Im ride single track trails, but nothing to extreme. I recently entered the FedGroup 100 at the Cradle and really struggled with my bike (and my fitness). Nonetheless, I've been offered the following bike (brand new). Considering Im in my 40s, 95kg and 193cm, would you think this is a decent setup:
Im never going be competative or win any races, but want something capable and a good 'all rounder'.

Appreciate any guidance.

Titan Racing Cypher RS Dash | 2023
29" Aluminium Full-Suspension MTB | X-Large Only

R28 999

Frame & Suspension

•⁠  ⁠Cypher X6 aluminium frame — lightweight and trail-proven
•⁠  ⁠RockShox Judy Silver Air fork — 100mm travel
•⁠  ⁠X-Fusion O2 RLR rear shock with quick flip remote

Drivetrain & Brakes

•⁠  ⁠SRAM SX Eagle 1x12 — wide range 11–50T cassette
•⁠  ⁠SRAM Level hydraulic disc brakes — 180mm front / 160mm rear rotors

Wheels & Tyres

•⁠  ⁠TR Prime SL 27 TLR rims — tubeless ready
•⁠  ⁠Vittoria Barzo 29x2.25 tyres

Cockpit & Comfort

•⁠  ⁠TR Pro flat bar 760mm
•⁠  ⁠Prologo Nago saddle

Posted (edited)

Can you be more specific as to what you struggled with in terms of the bike? Fitness and weight will make the biggest difference to you riding experience, but a good bike does help. You also need to be honest in terms of what type of riding you want to do and how far you want to take it. As part of that you need to decide what your priorities in terms of a bike are. Light and fast or comfortable. A proper XC race bike will mean a lower front end, which not every amateur can tolerate, whereas something a bit more on the trail side of things will be a lot more comfortable.

That Titan is a good, but very basic bike. It is quite heavy, has a noodle fork (for someone of your size) and terrible SRAM SX gears. In my opinion, it is something you’d ride for a bit and then realize you’d want to upgrade again. Giving us an idea of your budget would also be helpful.

Edited by thebob
Posted

Man, if you were a little shorter, my Titan Cypher would have been perfect for you! Alas, it is a medium frame.
 

I quite enjoy my Titans (I have a dual sus and hard tail). I prefer Shimano over SRAM, purely because I have had better luck doing my own minor maintenance on Shimano. But I have come to accept that I will need to pay a bit for someone else to do maintenance.

 

I have also owned a Silverback hard tail, and it did the job. I personally didn't like the geometry, though, as it seemed skewed rearwards. But, it never gave me a day of trouble, and the only reason I moved to Titan was because it got stolen.

 

I personally think that for the amateur, they are decent bikes. And these days, few bikes some to come with Shimano or SRAM components (I'm not sure how I feel about the Microshift and L-Twoo stuff yet).

 

As for fitness. I don't think the bike will make a difference until you get your base level fitness up.

I would go test the Titan, and see if it feels like a good fit for you.

If not, stick with the Silverback and get your fitness up, and take it from there.


Oh, I haven't done the Fedgroup 100, but I have ridden at Cradle Moon, and that place is brutal! So, don't beat yourself up too much just yet.

Posted

I love the Titans but the specs on that bike aren’t really going to help you a huge amount. 

The Judy is an entry-level fork, heavier than a better fork, and not very forgiving. 

SRAM SX is entry-level again, also not very forgiving, and doesn’t really allow for upgrading (as the bike will come with a HG freehub body). 

If I were you I would speak to @RobertWhitehead, he’s also an XL frame guy and he knows how to put a lekker bike together. 

Don’t feel too bad about your Cradle outing though - it’s not an easy. 

Posted

Thanks, I appreciate the feedback.

would this be a better option at R38k?

FRAME
CYPHER DC CL CARBON GEN 2 FRAMESET
FLIP CHIP / INTERNAL CABLE ROUTING / BOOST 148MM WITH THRU AXLE / BSA 73MM

FORK
MANITOU MACHETTE COMP 120MM
29″ / 120MM / BOOST 1.5T HL / 15 X 110 / 44MM OFFSET

REAR SHOCK
X-FUSION O2 RLR WITH QUICK FLIP REMOTE
120MM / XC-TRAIL / AIR SPRING / REBOUND AND LOCKOUT ADJUSTMENT / METRIC / 190 x 37.5MM D TUNE

CHAINWHEEL
SRAM SX EAGLE 32T
SRAM SX 32T DUB / 12 SPEED / S – 170mm CRANKARM / M+L+XL – 175mm CRANKARM

DERAILLEUR REAR
SRAM SX

SHIFTER RIGHT
SRAM NX

CHAIN
SRAM SX EAGLE

FREEWHEEL
CS PG1210 EAGLE 11-50T

BB SET
SRAM DUB

SPEED
12-SPEED

BRAKE LEVER
TEKTRO

BRAKE FRONT
TEKTRO HD-M275 WITH ROTOR 180MM

BRAKE REAR
TEKTRO HD-M275 WITH ROTOR 160MM

RIMS
PRIME SL 27 XC TL 32 HOLE
TR PRIME SL 27 XC / 29ER / MATT BLACK / DOUBLE WALL W/EYELETS / 32H / TL-READY / F/V

HUB FRONT
FORMULA 511 32H BOOST
DC-511 / THRU / 14Gx32H-M15x110 / BOOST

HUB REAR
FORMULA 3248 32H BOOST
DC-3248, 8/9/10s / THRU / 14Gx32H-M12x148 / BOOST

SPOKES
ATTACHED

TUBE
29″ F/V

TYRES
VITTORIA BARZO 29" X 2.35"
XC-RACE 120TPI NYLON / 4C GRAPHENE 2.0 COMPOUND / TLR / TAN SIDEWALL

GRIP
TR LOCKRING GRIP

HANDLEBAR
TR PRO ALLOY RISER BAR 780MM
PROMAX HB-3188DB R15 780MM

HANDLEBAR STEM
TR PRO ALLOY STEM
DA-205 3D FORGED AL6061 / 31.8mm BAR BORE / 28.6mm CLAMP I.D / 6 DEGREE RISE / S = 60mm / M/L = 80mm / XL = 100mm

HEADSET
FSA NO.42/ACB (BEARING)

SPACER
10mm X 2 PCS

SADDLE
PROLOGO DIMENSION NDR STN NYLON INJ

SEAT POST
X-FUSION MANIC WITH REMOTE 31.6
S = 100MM / M+L+XL = 125MM / XC/TRAIL ALLOY CONSTRUCTION / INFINITE ADJUST / INTERNAL CABLE ROUTING / PLASTIC MANIC REMOTE 31.9

SEAT CLAMP
MX70 ALLEN KEY

Posted

Not really. It’s still a fork with 32mm stanchions, still SRAM SX. You ideally want something with at least 34mm stanchions and a better groupset than SX. Both of these things matter. You’re a big guy and when you get onto the bars or put down power, cheap groupsets (incl. cranks) and noodle forks won’t stand a chance.

These are expensive parts and upgrading them on “cheap” bikes doesn’t make sense. Rather buy a bike specced ideally for you from the offset. 

Being that you’ll be looking for an XL frame, you have something of a bargaining chip in your corner if you’re wanting to buy new. Also bear in mind that if you want to sell it down the line, your new purchase bargaining chip becomes a ball and chain lol. 

Why not chat to Wesley at Mellow Velo and see what he can do for you? I see XL bikes on special there fairly often. But you’ll need to tweak your budget, or massacre it really, to get a bike that will serve you well long term. 

If meeting the outlay (probably ~60-70k) now is a challenge and you really want to buy new, then prepare to do a fork, brake and full drivetrain upgrade down the line. This will cost around ~30-40k if using new parts. Nothing wrong with taking this route of course, lots of people do, but there comes a point where it becomes throwing good money after bad. 

Posted (edited)

For 38k the best bike you are likely to get (IMO) is a Specialized Chisel (Shimano version). This is if you’re looking to do more XC type riding and maybe the odd race, which seems to gel with what you’ve said, but a bit more info than copy pasting bike spec would be appreciated.

https://www.specialized.com/za/en/chisel-shimano/p/4274029?color=5427874-4274029&searchText=93825-5005

For a bit less than that, the Zini Roam is a very underrated bike and blows the Titan away in terms of spec:

https://bike-addict.co.za/products/zini-roam-2025?_pos=4&_sid=c1f4f84b3&_ss=r

Edited by thebob
Posted

There are plenty of used bikes that suit your needs and would come in at a similar price point. 
On drivetrain, avoid anything sram that’s under GX level, shimano budget groupsets however are bombproof. For forks I differ with what’s been said above, a 32 mm stanchion is not going to cause you any inconvenience until you’re riding much harder, and by then you will probably have gotten a new bike. however make sure that you’re getting decent suspension regardless of its size, you will regret going for budget or old suspension. 

Posted
3 minutes ago, RobynE 🚵‍♀️ said:

Oh yes! 

Thanks Robyn. So this would be worth the additional R10k, when compared to the previous?

Posted

The Zini is brilliantly specced for the price. The fork is in essence a Fox 34 (Fox owns Marzocchi) and uses the same service kit. The brakes will suit nicely. The WTB components all very reliable, though you might enjoy slightly narrower tyres - your preference. Deore is Shimano’s entry-level 12s offering but it slaps SX and is well-respected. All in all much better value and worth the price tag as a new bike. 

Posted
1 minute ago, RobynE 🚵‍♀️ said:

The Zini is brilliantly specced for the price. The fork is in essence a Fox 34 (Fox owns Marzocchi) and uses the same service kit. The brakes will suit nicely. The WTB components all very reliable, though you might enjoy slightly narrower tyres - your preference. Deore is Shimano’s entry-level 12s offering but it slaps SX and is well-respected. All in all much better value and worth the price tag as a new bike. 

And it comes with a dropper post as standard. 

Posted
2 hours ago, thebob said:

For 38k the best bike you are likely to get (IMO) is a Specialized Chisel (Shimano version). This is if you’re looking to do more XC type riding and maybe the odd race, which seems to gel with what you’ve said, but a bit more info than copy pasting bike spec would be appreciated.

https://www.specialized.com/za/en/chisel-shimano/p/4274029?color=5427874-4274029&searchText=93825-5005

For a bit less than that, the Zini Roam is a very underrated bike and blows the Titan away in terms of spec:

https://bike-addict.co.za/products/zini-roam-2025?_pos=4&_sid=c1f4f84b3&_ss=r

So, the chisel would be the better bet over the zini? 
I see they are pretty much the same price.

Posted
1 hour ago, highrise said:

So, the chisel would be the better bet over the zini? 
I see they are pretty much the same price.

In my opinion, the Chisel will probably be the better bike if you’re looking to do the odd race while keeping the bike and upgrading the frame over time. The Zini will be a more forgiving (and better specced) bike initially, but will be a bit less racy. The difference won’t be huge between the two bikes.

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