Rotor rings win TDF

[1kTT]

I guess that the Rotor ring debate is now over for good:

 

http://www.velonews.com/article/80811

 

[Christie]

I want Stefan Schumacher's chainrings! They took him from 34th, 59th and 15th in last years TTs to 1st and 1st this year!    Christie2008-07-27 02:40:54

[bruce]

 

I guess that the Rotor ring debate is now over for good:

 

http://www.velonews.com/article/80811

 

 

Well, let's look at the evidence.  There have been approximately 104 TdF's, but let's take post war as 65 TdF's.

 

Let's round it off to about 1200 stages in total.

 

Number of stages won using Rotor Rings, vs. number of stages won using normal rings.  And you are using one stage result (not even a win mind you) to claim that the debate is now over for good?  Somehow I don't think the stats hold up so well

 

[Sammajoor]

 

I want Stefan Schumacher's chainrings! They took him from 34th' date=' 59th and 15th in last years TTs to 1st and 1st this year!    [/quote']

 

And his Doctors prescription for medicinal purposes

 

[racman]

I don't think it was the chainrings that helped him win the TT's, but  do believe it was a "non-standard" item or two .... or three.. or four.. racman2008-07-27 03:15:22

[1kTT]

 

 

Well' date=' let's look at the evidence.  There have been approximately 104 TdF's, but let's take post war as 65 TdF's.

 

Let's round it off to about 1200 stages in total.

 

Number of stages won using Rotor Rings, vs. number of stages won using normal rings.  And you are using one stage result (not even a win mind you) to claim that the debate is now over for good?  Somehow I don't think the stats hold up so well

[/quote']

 

hmm, lets apply that same logic to any modern equipment and we will all be back riding bikes from th 1960's

 

it was the single most important tt in Sastre's life.  He chose rotor rings (which took big effort to convince sponsers etc), defied all the expectations and hung on to yellow.  pretty compelling for me...

 

does anybody know if he rode the rotor rings for the whole tour ?

 

 

[fandacious]

hmm' date=' lets apply that same logic to any modern equipment and we will all be back riding bikes from th 1960's

it was the single most important tt in Sastre's life.  He chose rotor rings (which took big effort to convince sponsers etc), defied all the expectations and hung on to yellow.  pretty compelling for me...

does anybody know if he rode the rotor rings for the whole tour ?

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hey 1ktt... dont bother trying to convince them. they've made up their mind. Someone said the other day "show me a tdf stage winner with Qrings". Then when sastre won, there was a million reasons why he won besides his QRings.

 

I ride them and they work for me. If the next guy decides not to spend his money on them, I'll just smile politely when I pass him on the next climb

[ewep]

TO get used to them was a bit of a b|tch, but now I don't look back!

[1kTT]

 

 

hey 1ktt... dont bother trying to convince them. they've made up their mind. Someone said the other day "show me a tdf stage winner with Qrings". Then when sastre won' date=' there was a million reasons why he won besides his QRings.

 

[/quote']

 

think i might just put mine back on for summer!

 

[bruce]

 

 

Well' date=' let's look at the evidence.  There have been approximately 104 TdF's, but let's take post war as 65 TdF's.

 

Let's round it off to about 1200 stages in total.

 

Number of stages won using Rotor Rings, vs. number of stages won using normal rings.  And you are using one stage result (not even a win mind you) to claim that the debate is now over for good?  Somehow I don't think the stats hold up so well

[/quote']

 

hmm, lets apply that same logic to any modern equipment and we will all be back riding bikes from th 1960's

 

it was the single most important tt in Sastre's life.  He chose rotor rings (which took big effort to convince sponsers etc), defied all the expectations and hung on to yellow.  pretty compelling for me...

 

does anybody know if he rode the rotor rings for the whole tour ?

 

 

I don't disagree that the same logic should be applied to all modern equipment - it very much should be!!

 

All I'm saying is that a single good performance using a product does not constitute conclusive evidence - that same logic should be applied to all equipment.

 

I said on another thread that there is a proper study being performed down at Rhodes University, which I am actually providing some equipment for.

 

There are probably 5 or 6 very good explanations as to why the results yesterday were the way they were:

1. Evans is pretty stuffed - he has not reacted well to the pressure and has been isolated on a number of occasions.
2. Sastre was highly motivated.
3. Sastre has been protected by his team and has only really had to make one telling effort.
4. Sastre has not given his max in previous TT's, wherear Evans has.  I don't recall Sastre having to ride a TT with so much counting on it.
5. Sastre did not actually win the TT, he held on to yellow, that is all.
6. By the looks of things, Sastre also had some better TT equipment on his bike - Evans wasn't even wearing shoe covers if I saw correctly.
7. The QRings may have given him an advantage - this could be just one of the explanations.

Equipment manufacturers just love this type of anecdotal evidence.  It get's thousands of cyclists ruching out to buy their products all the time.

 

[Johan Bornman]

There are probably 5 or 6 very good explanations as to why the results yesterday were the way they were:

 

I also think good old patriotism and some financial consideration came into play here. There is a Spanish Connection here, isn't there?

[Sean Badenhorst]

Originally posted by 1KTT

think i might just put mine back on for summer!

 

If they are that good, why did you take them off?

 

[1kTT]

 

Originally posted by 1KTT

think i might just put mine back on for summer!

 

If they are that good' date=' why did you take them off?

[/quote']

 

the guys kept complaining that i was dropping them all the time ;-)

 

[jabbathemutt007]

 

I guess that the Rotor ring debate is now over for good:

 

http://www.velonews.com/article/80811

 

 

Only if there is an independent double blind study that demonstrates an increase in wattage when using them.

 

[Christie]

I guess that the Rotor ring debate is now over for good:

http://www.velonews.com/article/80811

 

Perhaps also then the debate about the best frame and the best wheels? 

[Guest Big H]

I guess that the Rotor ring debate is now over for good:

http://www.velonews.com/article/80811

Only if there is an independent double blind study that demonstrates an increase in wattage when using them.

 

That is what worries me......"certain" people are supplying equipment, and it WIL NOT be Polar HRM!!!!!!

 

Soooo....... do you guys think that Sastre's win will blow some value in the Cervelos that crack so much????????