suppliments

[Strawberry Mama]

Ag people - best suppliment.... just suppliment the water in the bottle with a touch of your best beverage.....

[IanJ]

Creatine does retain water' date=' but this helps in nitrogen being transported to the muscles. This helps the muscle build and recover quicker. All rugby players are on creatine, maybe that's why some of them cramp up .

 

Creatine is probably the most well documented and researched suppliment out there, and to date there are no negative side effects.

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But that is exactly the problem, rugby players and body builders don't mind a bit of extra bulk in the form of water but you know us cyclists .

 

Every gram counts.

 

 

 

 

[Azonic]

I use PhedraCut XT's, Thermo. I find that is must have a slight hunger depressant as I don't get hungry as often. It also makes you wanna go to the loo a litter sooner than usual... But I guess that can only be good for you anyway. My wife used to use PhedraCuts and had to stop because she got sick from using it. So it'll work for you, or not.

 

But at the end of the day people, if you want to loose weight you need to burn off more calories than what you shove into your face. I cannot think how that can happen without some hunger pains, at least. There ain't no magic pill or shake that will do that for you. To all the fat ladies out there, you can stop watching the informercials on TV, and get your large ass on the treadmill.

 

Some good advice, drink a big glass of water about 10 minutes before you dish your supper. You'll eat less and still feel full.

 

 

 

[2teeth]

Try EAS muscle amour.

 

And exersize, eat right and most of your problem is already solved

2teeth2008-08-05 02:37:11

[GIRR]

Creatine does retain water' date=' but this helps in nitrogen being transported to the muscles. This helps the muscle build and recover quicker. All rugby players are on creatine, maybe that's why some of them cramp up .

 

Creatine is probably the most well documented and researched suppliment out there, and to date there are no negative side effects.

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Haven't there been cases where muscle starts to come off the bone from excessive use...

 

Anyways if you want to lose weight just take in less calories than you put in.  So in other words it is defeating the object of going to the gym and burning 500 calories and then drinking an energade for your efforts with 1000 calories in it.

[colinw]

I am reluctant to make use of any of these products. Pretty sure that hard training, boxing classes during the week for muscle and strength, and correct eating will set me right. I was just curious to know if these products actaully work or its just marketing bullsh*t.  Cut out the crap from your diet is always a step in the right direction...tex anyone !!

[Wazza]

Creatine does retain water' date=' but this helps in nitrogen being transported to the muscles. This helps the muscle build and recover quicker. All rugby players are on creatine, maybe that's why some of them cramp up .

 

Creatine is probably the most well documented and researched suppliment out there, and to date there are no negative side effects.

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But that is exactly the problem, rugby players and body builders don't mind a bit of extra bulk in the form of water but you know us cyclists .

 

Every gram counts.

 

 

 

 

 

I hear you. That's why creatine should be cycled. 1 month on and one month off. When you are on it you should go all out in intensity, whether it be cycling, weight lifting etc. It helps the muscles recover quicker which in turn will make you stronger. When you are off it you will lose the water weight but hopefully still keep the muscle that was build.

 

If you eat too much salt you will also retain water, so it's much of a muchness.

[Wazza]

I am reluctant to make use of any of these products. Pretty sure that hard training' date=' boxing classes during the week for muscle and strength, and correct eating will set me right. I was just curious to know if these products actaully work or its just marketing bullsh*t.  Cut out the crap from your diet is always a step in the right direction...tex anyone !![/quote']

 

Have a break.....have a kit kat! 

[Wazza]

 

 

Haven't there been cases where muscle starts to come off the bone from excessive use...

 

 

Can't say I have heard of this before. It is most probably caused by over training, not the creatine. Kind of like shin splints. The muscle tears away from the shin bone which causes a sharp pain in the shins. But this is due to overtaining or doing too much too soon, not from creatine.

[Archicyclist]

for me it's kinda important to use at least some kinda supplement just to aid or assist your body with whatever exercise you doing. The only thing is deciding what to use, what brand, etc, etc. The media is choka block with all this supplement hype and the wonders it can do for you. Just like that A4 page ad of Robbie holding a VO2 max bottle in his hand showing how great it is for you(personally I think that stuff is a load of crap). We all get caught into buying this crap and at the end of the day thinking it works when all it does is burn your money.

 

It'll be interesting to know though what specific brand works for hubbers though if you willing to share?

 

[Wazza]

Suppliments are just that, suppliments.

 

The best form of getting the required nutrition is through solid, healthy, nutritionous food. Suppliments are for supplimenting things that you don't get through your normal diet. In order to preserve and build muscle you need to consume about 1.5 to 2 grams of protein per kg of lean body weight per day. Now if you are a lean 80kg, you need 160g of protein per day. That's alot of eating. So a protein shake here or there will help. But drinking only suppliment shakes to get your protein and carbohydrate requirements is not going to work.

[porky]

Suppliments are a billion dollar industry, they work on the fact that most folk are lazy and / or dont have time to train, so take a spoon of this and a drink of that and you will loose / gain weight / strength and whiten your teeth.!

 

What Bollocks.!

 

As most folk are saying, dieting is simple, take in less than you put out, you will loose weight - gain weight vice versa - want more strengh - lift weights, want more endurance - train long distance.!

 

There are no quick fixes, the body is a superb machine, it guards against all types of losses and gains, it regulates itself constantly without your help, it cleanses itself without your help, it processess tons of junk in its lifetime with very little ill effect, - toss out the suppliments, eat and train properly and you will see results.

 

The only weight loss suppliments will give you is in the area of your pocket.!     

[Harryn]

[Harryn2008-08-23 13:52:27

[Sean Badenhorst]

Eat less, ride more, lose weight. If you're super serious and podium finishes are your goal, then you can fine-tune supplementation with a sports nutrition expert. Calcium is about the only supplement all cyclists should take all the time as cycling's one negative effect is diminished bone density.

[Canaris]

I eat raw meat.

[jabbathemutt007]

 

I eat raw meat.

You should try yak eyeballs, apparently its very nutritious.