Tubeless vs tubes

[WiLD TiGER]

Tubeless all the way, the dymanic of it is superior in ride quality. Suppose it all depends on what type of riding you do, but I like fast singletrack and technical sections. Being able to run a tyre between 1.8 and 2 bar for my weight of 73kg is great!

 

I have tested many different types of rims and tyres. the best combination is the real deal, a proper tubeless tyre with a proper tubeless rim. forget about the extra 50 grammes or whatever. shimano XTR / XT wheelset or any of the Mavic Cross max with either maxxis or conti tyres. And choose a decent sealant.

Now with the tubless plug kit for out on the trail, if a puncture doesn't seal you plug it quickly, so no need to carry a lot of spares.

 

With these combinations, I have used a small handpump to pump them up from fitting the tyre, no compressor or anything.

 

My thoughts on this are that if you require a compressor to pump it, there is a problem already... what will you do out on the trail?

 

Choose wisely and it will be the best thing you could have ever done.

I race XC and marathons regularly and this works!

 

WiLD TiGER2008-09-18 04:05:33

[SwissVan]

 

I converted to tubeless in 2002 while I was still doing a lot of riding and races. Roundabout 2005 I went back to tubes purely because they are less hassle if you don?t ride / race regularly.  

 

Dougaroony ? Its actualy quite simple:<?: prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />

 

Toobless

= Better performance and comfort, due to lower pressures required and possibly some weight saving and less punctures.

= Can be an issue if you are not technically capable.

= Sealant is messy and requires on going maintenance to replace and keep things that come in contact (valves, inside tyre) clean.

= Burping can be an issue on hard packed fast corners.

 

Toob?s   

= More susceptible to punctures.

= Lower performance / comfort due to higher pressures.  

= Tubes are relatively simple to understand and apply compared to tubeless systems.

 

 

[dirtrider]

"= Tubes are relatively simple to understand and apply compared to tubeless systems. "

 

 

 

Ok now I see why some people don't understand .

 

 

 

 

[Contaminated Haggis]

thanks for the info SwissVan

[SwissVan]

"= Tubes are relatively simple to understand and apply compared to tubeless systems. "

Ok now I see why some people don't understand .

 

Do u need the long explanation?

 

 

[Mellow]

...seeing everyone has an opinion i may as well air mine...

 

I use the lightes combination with a sealant... and that is tube tyres (without tubes) and sealant. It makes sense in my mind and i havent been dissapointed to date... touch wood.

 

I do ride hard and I do carry a spair tube though at least one.

 

[greatwhite]

GreatEggWhite sir did you not take note of my earlier posting of this vital information' date=' am I posting for nought ..........

 

Doesn't have to be that expensive to try it .......

 

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I did indeed! I even followed the link and read it, such was my interest the chiming of BigBen

 

What I was asking, though, was how much does it burn if you do it with all the 'UST' tyres and stans and joes etc

 

BTW, what is UST an acronym for if anything?

[Contaminated Haggis]

There are 4 pages of 'explanation' SwissVan. You gave us all the short version which will do quite nicely

[SwissVan]

There are 4 pages of 'explanation' SwissVan. You gave us all the short version which will do quite nicely

 

Damn !!

Was hoping I could present a lecture on the pains of boobless tubeless and the pleasures of boobs tubes

 

 

[fandacious]

ask faniefiets what happens when a tubeless tyre pops off the rim...

[dirtrider]

Please don't let they stop you , I am very keen to hear it all . Might even chuck my toobeless stuff .

[dirtrider]

Fanie Fiets ? The blokes that loses control of his bike while on the rollers and then wrecks the furniture in the house and breaks a few bones as well . Brilliant idea , lets ask him .

[Contaminated Haggis]

I think it boils down to a preference thing and its good to be spoiled with choices. Each to his / her own I say!!

[fandacious]

Fanie Fiets ? The blokes that loses control of his bike while on the rollers and then wrecks the furniture in the house and breaks a few bones as well . Brilliant idea ' date=' lets ask him .[/quote']

 

hahaha.. ja.. good point!

 

we were doing some press thing when the old helshoogte was opened. He was standing around near the top and his rear tyre exploded off the rim. everyone in a 15m radius was covered in green snot

[dirtrider]

He seems like the right man to ask . I think he has his Bar/PSI confused .

[SwissVan]

ask faniefiets what happens when a tubeless tyre pops off the rim...

 

 

Or you could post the pictures..?? You did document it didn't u???

 

DR - Dont get me wrong, i agree tubeless is the way to go if you are prepared to put in the extra effort compared to tubes.

 

Perhaps in the last few years the rims, tyre and sealants have improved to the extent that they are indeed hassle free??