Guest Agteros Posted January 28, 2009 Share 'n Afrikaan is iemand van Afrika. Daar is egter Afrikane van verskeie velskakerings.... 'n Afrikaner is wat iemand soos die kurnell 'n rockspider sal noem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willehond Posted January 28, 2009 Share 'n Afrikaan is iemand van Afrika. Daar is egter Afrikane van verskeie velskakerings.... 'n Afrikaner is wat iemand soos die kurnell 'n rockspider sal noem Het jy al ooit iemand gehoor s?: 'Sjoe, kyk hoe stroom al die Afrikane oor ons grense?" Not bloody likely... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reg Lizard Posted January 28, 2009 Share When I say I speak Afrikaans to Dutch people they look at me like I'm stupid. See' date=' Afrikaans means 'African' in Dutch and there is no word for the (dying?) language of Afrikaans. I have to say I speak 'Zuid-Afrikaans', which is another incorrect name, but it gets me by... Which begs the question; why does Afrikaans not have a word for African? (one which actually gets used!!!). Is it because all the words for African have been banned?[/quote'] 10 uit 10 vir jou willehond, jy slaan die spyker op sy kop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Big H Posted January 28, 2009 Share Mense julle is die grootste klomp suckers as julle vir Colonel se posts val. Hy voel 'n veer of afrikaans uitsterf of nie. Hy gee ook nie regtig om nie en ek is seker dit is nie sy mening nie. AL rede hoekom hy dit post is uit die reaksie wat hy kry. Hy wil nie 'n stelling maak nie' date=' dit is net entertaining om te sien hoe mense ELKE LIEWE slag na sy stelling bos gaan. [/quote'] Ek val nooit vir die Kurnell se galbrake nie. Dit is net vir my lekker om die klein skurmunkel uit te k..... trap!!!!!!!! Mens kan moe op 'n afstand sien hy is 'n skoorsoekende klein strint!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Agteros Posted January 28, 2009 Share 'n Afrikaan is iemand van Afrika. Daar is egter Afrikane van verskeie velskakerings.... 'n Afrikaner is wat iemand soos die kurnell 'n rockspider sal noem Het jy al ooit iemand gehoor s?: 'Sjoe' date=' kyk hoe stroom al die Afrikane oor ons grense?" Not bloody likely...[/quote'] Verwys jy nou dan die persone van Zimbabwe, of die van Mosambiek? Daardie daarbo is egter die woorde om te gebruik. Net so is ek (9e geslag in die land) ook 'n Afrikaan, maar ek is 'n Afrikaanse Afrikaan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Big H Posted January 28, 2009 Share When I say I speak Afrikaans to Dutch people they look at me like I'm stupid. See' date=' Afrikaans means 'African' in Dutch and there is no word for the (dying?) language of Afrikaans. I have to say I speak 'Zuid-Afrikaans', which is another incorrect name, but it gets me by... Which begs the question; why does Afrikaans not have a word for African? (one which actually gets used!!!). Is it because all the words for African have been banned?[/quote'] Vir wat hamer jy nou weer op die "banned" was ou perd..... skies ou hond????? Pharos is baie duidelik...... Af?rican, (n) Afrikaan; (a) Afrikaans; EAST |African ~, Oos-Afrikaans; NORTH |African ~, Noord-Afrikaans; SOUTH |African ~, Suid-Afrikaner; SOUTH-WEST |African ~, (hist.), Suidwes-Afrikaner, Suidwester; WEST |African ~, Wes-Afrikaans. Hoekom soek jy "appetheid" onner elke bos??????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willehond Posted January 28, 2009 Share When I say I speak Afrikaans to Dutch people they look at me like I'm stupid. See' date=' Afrikaans means 'African' in Dutch and there is no word for the (dying?) language of Afrikaans. I have to say I speak 'Zuid-Afrikaans', which is another incorrect name, but it gets me by... Which begs the question; why does Afrikaans not have a word for African? (one which actually gets used!!!). Is it because all the words for African have been banned?[/quote'] Vir wat hamer jy nou weer op die "banned" was ou perd..... skies ou hond????? Pharos is baie duidelik...... Af?rican, (n) Afrikaan; (a) Afrikaans; EAST |African ~, Oos-Afrikaans; NORTH |African ~, Noord-Afrikaans; SOUTH |African ~, Suid-Afrikaner; SOUTH-WEST |African ~, (hist.), Suidwes-Afrikaner, Suidwester; WEST |African ~, Wes-Afrikaans. Hoekom soek jy "appetheid" onner elke bos??????? Ek soek hom nie onner die bos nie, hy spring sommer uit!!!!!! Anyway Big H, what I actually meant is that it is difficult for Afrikaners to refer to other people in Africa as 'Africans' because it implies that they themselves are less 'African'. No? They then resolve to use loads of other terms (blacks, Zimbabweans, foreigners, etc, etc....) just to avoid the term "Afrikane". Just an interesting pshycological question I thought... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Agteros Posted January 28, 2009 Share When I say I speak Afrikaans to Dutch people they look at me like I'm stupid. See' date=' Afrikaans means 'African' in Dutch and there is no word for the (dying?) language of Afrikaans. I have to say I speak 'Zuid-Afrikaans', which is another incorrect name, but it gets me by... Which begs the question; why does Afrikaans not have a word for African? (one which actually gets used!!!). Is it because all the words for African have been banned?[/quote'] Vir wat hamer jy nou weer op die "banned" was ou perd..... skies ou hond????? Pharos is baie duidelik...... Af?rican, (n) Afrikaan; (a) Afrikaans; EAST |African ~, Oos-Afrikaans; NORTH |African ~, Noord-Afrikaans; SOUTH |African ~, Suid-Afrikaner; SOUTH-WEST |African ~, (hist.), Suidwes-Afrikaner, Suidwester; WEST |African ~, Wes-Afrikaans. Hoekom soek jy "appetheid" onner elke bos??????? Ek soek hom nie onner die bos nie, hy spring sommer uit!!!!!! Anyway Big H, what I actually meant is that it is difficult for Afrikaners to refer to other people in Africa as 'Africans' because it implies that they themselves are less 'African'. No? They then resolve to use loads of other terms (blacks, Zimbabweans, foreigners, etc, etc....) just to avoid the term "Afrikane". Just an interesting pshycological question I thought... Verskaf asseblief die bewys vir die bogenoemde geimpliseerde hipotese om te verhoed dat bogenoemde stelling afgemaak word as kwaadstokery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willehond Posted January 28, 2009 Share Af?rican' date=' (n) Afrikaan; (a) Afrikaans; EAST |African ~, Oos-Afrikaans; NORTH |African ~, Noord-Afrikaans; SOUTH |African ~, Suid-Afrikaner; SOUTH-WEST |African ~, (hist.), Suidwes-Afrikaner, Suidwester; WEST |African ~, Wes-Afrikaans.[/quote'] So....the (n) is Afrikaan, but the (a) is Afrikaans????? Therefore the translation below is correct and very confusing:"He is an African, with an African wife" is translated as "Hy is 'n Afrikaan, met 'n Afrikaanse vrou"???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Big H Posted January 28, 2009 Share Nee wat as 'n agteros van alle dinge bewyse van 'n hipotese wil he moet die seder maar val waar hy wil. Julle kan nou maar verder rooiwyn drink en kakpraat!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Agteros Posted January 28, 2009 Share Willebrakkie, soek jy dalk 'n paplepel? In hierdie geval moet jy dalk met die ingilse gaan skoor soek, want klaarblyklik het hulle nie 'n voldoende bruikbare woordeskat om die verskeie woorde wat op Afrika gebaseer is mee te onderskei nie? Daarom is Afrikaner ('n 'tribe'), en Afrikane ('n collection of people from Africa, irrespective of tribal association) dalk vreemde konsepte vir hulle, en dus word almal en alles oor dieselfde kam geskeer. Amper soos die Amerikaners (VSA inwoners, en nie Amerikane nie)wat dink dat Suid Afrika net daar anderkant Texas is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willehond Posted January 28, 2009 Share Anyway Big H' date=' what I actually meant is that it is difficult for Afrikaners to refer to other people in Africa as 'Africans' because it implies that they themselves are less 'African'. No? They then resolve to use loads of other terms (blacks, Zimbabweans, foreigners, etc, etc....) just to avoid the term "Afrikane". Just an interesting pshycological question I thought... [/quote'] Verskaf asseblief die bewys vir die bogenoemde geimpliseerde hipotese om te verhoed dat bogenoemde stelling afgemaak word as kwaadstokery. Sien dit maar as kwaadstokery, ek is happy daarmee! Anyway, I hipotese is per definisie nie 'n bewys nie en daarvoor geimpliseerd? (Plus, die feit dat ek Afrikaans is, is al genoeg rede om met autoriteit en volledige oorgawe te s? dat dit so is want ek het nog nooit die woord Afrikaan in 'n gesprek gehoor nie!) Jy het ook nie die vraag beantwoord nie. Vind jy dit nie weird nie? Remember, Afrikaans is just a language. Don't take it too seriously! EN DAN TEN SLOTTE, vertaal hierdie sin: Net so min soos ek my aan ou Afrikaanse omies steur wat my Afrikanerskap bevraagteken, steur ek my aan ou Afrikaanse omies wat my Afrikaanskap bevraagteken. Gaan figure bietjie daai sin uit (daar is drie interpretasies...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Agteros Posted January 28, 2009 Share 'n hipotese is 'n veronderstelling, of aanvaarding wat per definisie 'n bewys benodig. Soek maar in die Navorsingsmetodologie teksboeke. Afrikaan is beslis nie 'n woord wat volop en in algemene gebruik is nie! Afrikaans mag dalk net 'n taal wees, maar dit word sterk gekoppel aan Afrikanerskap, en dit deur verskeie mense, beide Afrikaners, asook ander. Baie Afrikaners (indien nie meeste nie) sien Afrikaans as iets eie aan hulle, en enige mens sien 'n 'perceived' aanval op dit wat hulle s'n is as 'n aanval op hulle self (individueel, of groep). Daardie sin is 'n besliste taalknoper in ander tale, en die duidelikste manier om te vertaal, sal wees om nie enkel woord vir enkel woord te wil vertaal nie, maar eerde van omskrywings en frases gebruik te maak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velouria Posted January 28, 2009 Share Come to think of it Willehond, we don't use the term "African" in english in that context either, probably for the same reason. Over the years the word has come to refer to a specific type of person from Africa, and does not include all people from Africa. Think about the people from Egypt - I doubt many people associate them with the word "African". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreZA Posted January 28, 2009 Share Come to think of it Willehond' date=' we don't use the term "African" in english in that context either, probably for the same reason. Over the years the word has come to refer to a specific type of person from Africa, and does not include all people from Africa. Think about the people from Egypt - I doubt many people associate them with the word "African".[/quote'] Waht about Euro-African. It's like Afro American but just with brains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nancy Drew Posted January 28, 2009 Share Costa= Constantine...as does Dina or Constance Hmmmm... suddenly the tattoo makes sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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