Fast One prize money

[Dirty Twin]

Hey BG if they give you any kaaaaak pm me and I will go sort shane out he is kind of a buddy.

[Wyatt Earp]

Agreed Staal That sword in your avatar could easily be confused as a syringe amongst this bunch of nut cases

 

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that's a masonry screw and plug!

 

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Shebeen, you have emptied out your own stock holding

 

 

 

 

[bored girl]

Hey BG if they give you any kaaaaak pm me and I will go sort shane out he is kind of a buddy.

 

 

 

Hehehe I'm not worried yet They did only have "provisional" results and were open to objections for 7 days so hopefully I can tell you all happy new next week

[JenniGreen]

Gentlemen, if I may have an opportunity to respond to your inaccurate and grossly insulting comments.

 

Let's start at the start. The reason that prize winners at cycling events receive an 'envelope with a letter', and not cash, is very simply security. Having the amount of prize money in envelopes on the day poses a high risk, and we are not prepared to entertain that. Running events generally have lower prize money (and entry fee) therefore the risk is relatively lower. However, in the running events that we are involved in, we have instituted the same procedure.

 

Secondly, the race organiser, in both the Fast One and Cycle Challenge (94.7) does NOT pay the prize money. In the case of the Fast One, Riverside Rotary (a group of volunteers) pays this money directly to prize winners. In the case of Cycle Challenge, this is paid out directly by the sponsor - as they control the event budget. In both cases, this is not their core business, and there are many checks and balances in place before the money can be transferred. Again, from an event budget.

 

Furthermore, the ludicrous suggestion that event organisers and/or sponsors sit on the prize money to earn interest shows a complete lack of understanding of the business and the budgets involved.

 

It does help too, then, that ALL the CORRECT bank details are supplied to the entity that is making the transfers.

 

I find the slander and name calling of these volunteers, professionals and sponsors quite unnecessary, and undignified. It casts an extremely poor reflection on the cycling community, of which I am embarrassed to say I am am a part of.

 

Because of doping issues and the non-repayment of monies from perpetrators, the suggestion from CSA is that prize money is held onto for four to six months after an event.

 

Roads cannot be closed and commandeered week in and week out, and we

need to understand this. We, as organisers do what we can in order to

put the safest possible events on, given the greater considerations of

living in one of the busiest cities in the world, with no public

transport infrastructure.

 

 

In closing, insults and ignorant comments go no where to improving the service. In this climate, sponsors are few and far between and unfortunately, without sponsors, we don't have events.

 

While we welcome your constructive comments and suggestions, this may be best done by engaging with each event organiser instead of creating a negative and inaccurate culture of feedback. We have many people who do chose to interact with us in this way, and many changes have come about through this positive interaction.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[porky]

Because of doping issues and the non-repayment of monies from perpetrators' date=' the suggestion from CSA is that prize money is held onto for four to six months after an event.

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Hmm, well, luckily for me I will probably never be in the position of having to wait 6 months for my prize money, but were that very sad day to arise, I would be writing to every newspaper, every magazine any Tv show who would listen and certainly be engaging the "responsible" persons in a very antagonistic manner re my rightfull winnings.

 

Sorry,............... Nobody, but nobody has the right to hold onto my rightfull funds for 4-6 months without my consent and without paying me interest at the standard rate of the day - a month - six weeks I can understand, no problem, after that you would hear from me.

 

Of course all this is hypothetical, as I will likely never win a race, but my views are just as strong. Morally and ethically that witholding of funds is wrong, you will never convince me otherwise.

 

I would like to hear if those suggested reasons and the time frames are endorsed by CSA.

 

porky2009-04-06 09:35:49

[Icycling]

JenniGreen, I understand all that you have communicated. But also been part of an organizing body in the Cape where we also hand out empty envelops for much the same reason as you do and have been doing so for at least 3 years now.

 

 

 

I have one question was this made clear on entering the event. If not make it clear for the next event. The reason are more than valid for handing out empty envelops!

[intern]

Would even be very nice if accurate information and responses to the initial very polite requests for information were simply responded to. That would have avoided the whole issue.

 

I think when we enter races at sometimes quite high entry fees, we can rightly be considered 'customers' and therefore have some expectation of reasonable interaction when we initiate it?

 

Suffice to say, monies were eventually disbursed.

 

[intern]

Oh, and spent largely on beer by fun loving team mates...yeah!

[Trubie]

Jenni - maybe if you responded two months ago, when this thead was still active, it would have been appreciated much more.

The fact is, if you were the customer , as we are in this instance, I'm sure you would have felt the same. The other issues you raised were suggestions, and comments about races in general, and how to improve them for everyone involved. It costs a lot of money to enter a race, then you expect value for money. A couple of essentials is neccesary to guarantee that you got value for money. I dont remember anyone slanting the race organization, it was all about the issue of the prize money not being paid timeously. I agree with Porky , to hold back funds, in case someone is caught doping etc, is a bit far fetched. Surely steps can be taken to get the money out of the perpetrators - why let the guys/girls who need that money to survive, suffer because of a maybe? Doesnt sound right to me.

[fandacious]

 

I find the slander and name calling of these volunteers' date=' professionals and sponsors quite unnecessary, and undignified. It casts an extremely poor reflection on the cycling community, of which I am embarrassed to say I am am a part of.

 

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we're just as embarresed to have organizers such as the abovementioned  as part of the cycling community. we dont neen nonsense like that

 

 

Because of doping issues and the non-repayment of monies from perpetrators' date=' the suggestion from CSA is that prize money is held onto for four to six months after an event.

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who exactly at the CSA gave you that directive?

 

[fandacious]

 

 

Suffice to say' date=' monies were eventually disbursed.

 

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and its not even 4-6 months after the event.

 

makes you wonder about her statement. how did they suddenly manage to pay out the money before 4-6months were up.

 

it pisses me off when we are treated like idiots. dont make up random excuses

 

[Delgado]

I think the next time I enter a race I will pay via an IOU in an unmarked Manilla envelope and if the race avoids shaming my esteemed name I will make settlement within 12 months.......personal risk management at work you see!!

[porky]

I think the next time I enter a race I will pay via an IOU in an unmarked Manilla envelope and if the race avoids shaming my esteemed name I will make settlement within 12 months.......personal risk management at work you see!!

 

Sounds fair to me - whats good for the goose is also good for the gander.!

 

Furthermore -

 

As I am running the Two Oceans this weekend, I had a quick peek at my race entry -

 

***Prize money is R150.000.00 for the top male AND top female - so I guess there gos the good Mrs Greens theory that Running races have smaller prize money.

 

Anyway, lets hear if CSA comments on the time statement - I for one will be watching for a reply with interest.

 

 

 

[darnijl]

 

I see I misspelled 'race'...perhaps 'arce' (pronounce phonetically' date=' you'll see) is a Freudian slip...

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[mallo]

Jenni some of your comments are laughable(Road races pay out much more money than cycling events) at the Jhb marathon we handed out prize money in excess of R900 000-00 three weeks ago ladies winner went home with R150000-00 and the monies are transferred within a week of test results coming back from the lab.

 

 

 

As a service provider you are not sincere to the cyclists at all,The only monies you supposed to hold back are those of the tested riders not all the category winners. To CSA I say shame on you for putting a hold of 4/6 months on prize monies, please justify your reasoning.( If Jenni statement is correct)