AndreZA Posted December 21, 2009 Share you all want plastic mass produced bikes. What about a Se7en, Independant or Pegoretti that is custom made for you. If you have to spend more then R30k on a frame, get a proper one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyOwl3.0 Posted December 21, 2009 Share Pinarello have exclusive use of TORAY? They wish! See the new Eddy Merckx uses the same 46HM3K Carbon from TORAY as the FP3 Pinarello!  GO' date=' as I understand it, they have exclusive use for bicycle frames, of specificaly the Toray M60J fiber. M60J is about 35% stiffer than M46J. It is slightly heavier, but not much, meaning a stiffer design for the same mass, or less mass for the same stiffness (if engineered properly) should be achievable.[/quote']  Dude...I actually did not read your post properly! I understand now, and yes I do agree with you that Pinarello have exclusive use of the M60J. My bad!  Please dont think I am bashing Pinarello, as I am a devout fan, having owned several personally. And lets face it, there are few bikes in the same league when it comes to looks. (if any)  As for wheels/frames and stuff thats outsourced to Japan...is it that bad a thing? I've seen plenty Italian cars broken down on the side of the road, but few Japanese ones! So why should it diminish the appeal of the bikes? They clearly know what they are doing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyOwl3.0 Posted December 21, 2009 Share you all want plastic mass produced bikes. What about a Se7en' date=' Independant or Pegoretti that is custom made for you. If you have to spend more then R30k on a frame, get a proper one.[/quote'] Â Colnago have their Master 55 steel frame! Just a little free punt!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreZA Posted December 21, 2009 Share Now you are talking GO2.0. I'll even take this Schwinn over a Pinarello. http://www.selectism.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/schwinn-paramount-70-anniversary-frame-front.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christie Posted December 21, 2009 Share GO, Imo bikes made in the East are great. 2010 Cannondale production are also 100% "made in China". I suspect there will be a big improvement in quality, and much less warranty claims, especially for paint problems.  I just think Colnago backed themselves into a corner somewhat by hitting the "made in Italy" thing a bit hard when Bianchi & Pinarello moved East. They should have switched sooner!   Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L'Bie Posted December 21, 2009 Share Gaint, Felt or Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoLefty!! Posted December 21, 2009 Share If you are looking for a plastic bike, then made in Taiwan aor China is the way to go. If you want Custom then Steel, Titanium or some Carbon frame are the way to go. For me, a frame can't be exclusive if it pops out of a mould. exclusive is custom. period  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christie Posted December 21, 2009 Share For me' date=' a frame can't be exclusive if it pops out of a mould. exclusive is custom. period[/quote']Well put. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASmit Posted June 25, 2010 Share The new '10 BMCÂ GOT TO LOVE IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andretraut Posted June 25, 2010 Share <img src="https://cdn.bikehub.co.za/uploads2/20090924_125935_xxx.JPG" height="665" width="890" border="0" />I would'nt disagree that Mr.Look's Look is a great bike, but this one reminds me too much of the multi coloured Volkswagen Polo that VW tried to sell...the one no-one wanted to buy. (Not intended to p*ss anyone off.. just my humble opinion.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbox Posted June 25, 2010 Share I know there is a big list that did not make it onto my choices but feel free to add yours. The ones on my list is just the obvious choices one would see in most shops, the others that did not make it might not be my favorite <img src="https://assets.bikehub.co.za/legacy_images/smilies/smiley2.gif" border="0" align="absmiddle" alt="Wink" /> the list of others go on....Giant, Raleigh,BH,Look,Felt, Storck,Willier,Schwinn,Orbea ...etc  Maby this poll might show something or might be totally useless if everyone choose "other"<img src="https://assets.bikehub.co.za/legacy_images/smilies/smiley9.gif" border="0" align="absmiddle" alt="Embarrassed" />  Colnago!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAESTRO's Posted June 25, 2010 Share Pegoretti......nice to know that I have one of only three in SA. oh, and it rides like a bike is suppose to ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbox Posted June 25, 2010 Share Colnago!!!!! And if money is not a problem..... DOGMA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreZA Posted June 25, 2010 Share Pegoretti......nice to know that I have one of only three in SA. oh, and it rides like a bike is suppose to ride. Giovani Motalini, groot kokadoor at CGC, also have/had one. A nice bottle green and cream coloured one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sloet Posted June 25, 2010 Share ceepo viper for the tri-letes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAESTRO's Posted June 25, 2010 Share The other two Pegs in SA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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