TNT1 Posted December 7, 2009 Share Well done hr. You are wrong' date=' but ok. [/quote'] Leave it there. Too late Guess I can go edit if you'd like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollar Posted December 7, 2009 Share Ah. That's better. Now I can chirp. Any SUV is a massive compromise (contradiction?) of a car! "Sport/Utility"? If you want sports buy a Ferrari. If you want utility then you buy a bakkie. If you need a station wagon go and get a Volvo. To reasonably expect all the above in one neat (SAFE?) little package is pushing it just a tad dont you think? These things have high C of G's by virtue of their ground clearance and size. They have the handling characteristics of a double decker bus on tar roads and any wally can drive them at any speed. They are not generally very slow either. I particularly like the black ones with tinted windows - you cannot see the fear in the eyes of the passengers when they pass you at 180 though? Typically a moderate collision avoidance action - that a normal "car" would survive is often going to make an SUV wallow like a pi$$ed whale. One wallow too many and over it goes! In order to try and mitigate this serious design problem they use all manner of means to "tame" the whale - stability control (ha ha), suspension new tires, shocks. The only thing that would be totally effective is a rev limiter that only allows them to do 40 kph on highways and 10 kph on dirt roads. Problem solved - no more k@k from SUV's I expect a to take a bit of flack from proud SUV owners. I am happy you love them - I dont. Best thing about running out of oil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kranswurm Posted December 7, 2009 Share The toyota Hi-lux is a awesome vehicle ' date=' the Fortuner is not . But hell don't worry about all the negative reviews , rather go and look for "real" hard facts . I suggest a visit you your local scrap yard ? [/quote'] DRNow you have the opportunity to buy my "old" D/Cab 3.0L Diesel 2003 with S/S LR Tank and Canopy.Indestructable!R 110 000 Cash! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtrider Posted December 7, 2009 Share and only 380 000 on the clock ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kranswurm Posted December 7, 2009 Share and only 380 000 on the clock ? Ha HaThis sprightly chicken has 218 000 on the clock.Trouble is its registered in Botswana and has spent most of its life doing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtrider Posted December 7, 2009 Share Almost brand new . And was used it such a nice environment ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanbean Posted December 7, 2009 Share I'm getting a Fortuner, the problems were created by a interaction between the tires that they came out with and the suspension type, I'd love to buy a normal car, but the roads that I drive would destroy it in no time. My options are Chevy Captiva, or Fortuner, no other vehicle is suitable, and the Toyota is far more comfortable, and I've always driven a Toyota, and I have a Toyota Hilux bakkie and 4x4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASTANA Posted December 7, 2009 Share almost like some people on the hub selling stuff. "Brand new, only done 280 00 km. As good as new. only had for 2 months, not my size looking for something smaller. Price R500 000. non neg. " Haha - people always wanting more that what its worth and calling a used product brand new... There is a reason why a fortuner is "cheap" compared to real SUV's. Love toyota and would never ride any other bakkie, but I just don't get SUV's - as said - not a 4x4 (who is going to go bundu bashing with a R900K audi Q7 or Land Cruiser ? If you want a car buy a car, if you want a bakkie buy a bakkie. Combo's never work quite as good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoLefty!! Posted December 7, 2009 Share Ah. That's better. Now I can chirp.Any SUV is a massive compromise (contradiction?) of a car! "Sport/Utility"? If you want sports buy a Ferrari. If you want utility then you buy a bakkie. If you need a station wagon go and get a Volvo. To reasonably expect all the above in one neat (SAFE?) little package is pushing it just a tad dont you think?These things have high C of G's by virtue of their ground clearance and size. They have the handling characteristics of a double decker bus on tar roads and any wally can drive them at any speed. They are not generally very slow either. I particularly like the black ones with tinted windows - you cannot see the fear in the eyes of the passengers when they pass you at 180 though?Typically a moderate collision avoidance action - that a normal "car" would survive is often going to make an SUV wallow like a pi$$ed whale. One wallow too many and over it goes!In order to try and mitigate this serious design problem they use all manner of means to "tame" the whale - stability control (ha ha)' date=' suspension new tires, shocks.The only thing that would be totally effective is a rev limiter that only allows them to do 40 kph on highways and 10 kph on dirt roads. Problem solved - no more k@k from SUV's I expect a to take a bit of flack from proud SUV owners. I am happy you love them - I dont. Best thing about running out of oil [/quote'] You are THE man, 100% agreed with this post. Interesting that VW is launching its Amarok in SA Q3 next year and they are labeling it a Commercial vehicle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmaccelari Posted December 7, 2009 Share I'd rather drive a Toyota than a Nissan.... At least a Nissan tends to stay the right side up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNT1 Posted December 7, 2009 Share "a pissed whale"? Nice.Plenty on display at a nightclub in the east rand? Not that kinda pissed whale?TNT12009-12-07 08:30:47 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kranswurm Posted December 7, 2009 Share almost like some people on the hub selling stuff."Brand new' date=' only done 280 00 km. As good as new. only had for 2 months, not my size looking for something smaller. Price R500 000. non neg. "Haha - people always wanting more that what its worth and calling a used product brand new...There is a reason why a fortuner is "cheap" compared to real SUV's.Love toyota and would never ride any other bakkie, but I just don't get SUV's - as said - not a 4x4 (who is going to go bundu bashing with a R900K audi Q7 or Land Cruiser ?If you want a car buy a car, if you want a bakkie buy a bakkie. Combo's never work quite as good.[/quote'] Oi,Bebop Delux....the post says "old" and the whole thing is tongue in cheek ,so sod off!Kranswurm2009-12-07 08:31:02 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtrider Posted December 7, 2009 Share Hey with only 280k on the clock that thing is almost brand new . anybody that knows these thngs knows that the engine only gets run in at about 300k anyway !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoLefty!! Posted December 7, 2009 Share I'm getting a Fortuner' date=' the problems were created by a interaction between the tires that they came out with and the suspension type, I'd love to buy a normal car, but the roads that I drive would destroy it in no time. My options are Chevy Captiva, or Fortuner, no other vehicle is suitable, and the Toyota is far more comfortable, and I've always driven a Toyota, and I have a Toyota Hilux bakkie and 4x4.[/quote'] The problem was created by K*K design. Fitting a taller, heavier body to a bakkie's ladder frame (where the weight is carried lower down) is a K8K idea. that vehicle is inherantly unsafe. But hey go ahead, its your life and your family's lives at stake. Just post your reg number so when I see you on the road I can provide you with as wide a berth as possible. SUV's should be banned. Unsafe for their occupants, unsafe for other road users. they were intended to get around emissions legisaltion in the USA and now everyone has cottoned onto the loopholes.Mostly they're unsafe for iother road users because their drivers are doing like 160km/hr and well within the 2second following rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Agteros Posted December 7, 2009 Share I'd rather drive a Toyota than a Nissan.... At least a Nissan tends to stay the right side up... That is if the rust don't get to them first... (which it always does) .. ok used to... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
udxcob Posted December 7, 2009 Share The fortuner is an extremely practical vehicle for a large family and you cannot buy another 7 seater at the price, my wife loves hers, i will just warn her every now and then that its not a BMW because they are fast and tend to fall over. udxcob2009-12-07 08:36:42 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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