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He meant it wasn’t hard enough to make it a climbers race, which is true since a sprinter won the race. Blows my mind that a couple of sprinters survived the 3 climbs the pace looked (and was) hot 🥵

It works ! No more delays getting on the 10T cog, thanks okes!

mmmh indeed, one of the bottom ones has a wider hole, I swapped that one with the inner on my original upper jockey wheel and it sits nicely in the garbaruk cage, let's see. What's weird is that the garbaruk wheels have the same thing (wider hole on the lower/bigger jockey wheel), but those bearing covers can't be removed (not great for servicing), or at least I couldn't take them off. So right now I'm using a sram upper wheel and a garbaruk lower wheel, let's see if it works better. Thanks for the tip, I guess you learn every day 🤣

mmmh only the upper pulleys

The caps that cover the bearings on the pulley wheels are all the same, both on the garbaruk and on the gx axs stock cage, maybe on the older mechanical derailleurs there was one a bit deeper, but not on mine

Nope, initially I bought them with the 11spd hub, then I moved my AXS and ordered the XDR hub. I only remembered when you mentionned it that that spacer was needed for the eagle cassette

If there's even a small doubt, I'd never postpone a test as you wouldn't want to wait till it's too late. Hope it's nothing mate 💪

no, it's brand new and was working fine with the old chain. So the spacing is built-in the inner cage, and the sram pulley, just like the garbaruk one is the same on both side around the bearings, no matter which way I put the pulley in it’s not flush against the inside of the cage. I'm starting to think screw the garbaruk I'll put the original 2kg cage that at least works 🤣 Before I do that I'll investigate if it's possible to get the derailleur to learn to use it's full range, right now it's not going all the way to the limit screw that is already quite a bit in, that doesn't seem normal, if it was resting further out it would probably solve my problem

mmmh okay I think I understand now, found the manual you've extracted the pic from, looks like my cage is using the sram pulleys and not the garbaruk ones (because the garbaruk are exactly the same on both sides). I'll try changing the upper pulley for the sram one see what happens, thanks

XDR, okay so that's why the spacer was there and why the is still there even without it, will put it back on, I didn't notice an improvement after taking it off anyways. Thanks man

One thing though, without the spacer it still looks like there's a gap behind the cassette, about a mil or half a mil, I checked the grooves in the cassette, it doesn't look like you're supposed to fit it in a specific way like the shimano cassettes that have a specific pattern so that you can only fit the cassette in one specific position... right ? Must I just tighten it harder ?

I realise I've been counting wrong this whole time 🤣 For me before .5 is .75 new (half full, half empty glass 🤣) Here's the old chain : Here you can see the upper pulley is spaced towards the outside (sorry about the mess, the new chain was freshly waxed waiting for it's day) Where the cage is pressed against that platform/seal that keeps the spring tight and clean. At first I thought that little thingy that you put in to prevent the cage from spinning a 360 the second you take the chain off was a bit too big for where it bolts into the cage (you can see it's in contact with the derailleur), but I took it off and it doesn't make a difference in shifting

yes, it was not near .75, I only rode 20mins with that "brand new 2nd hand" chain. I always change my chains the second they reach .75 I put the new cage on top of the plastic platform that held the old cage, and that seals the container that keeps the spring in, the new cage contact point with that platform looks same as on the old one and fits on perfectly. I put the pulleys in the cage thinking they're non directional. When I started troubleshooting that shifting issue I noticed that the closest pulley to the cassette was actually spaced out differently on the one side (closer to the frame), so if I turn it around it will make my problem even worse. On the original cage shifting was better, although I always had that little bit of a weird setup where the limitscrew at the small side of the cassette was barely in contact, I figured it was because someone put a spacer behind my cassette (probably when I had a pair of training wheels setup for my prev bike, the bikeshop must have tried to make them both align with the same derailleur setting) I'll take a couple photos

You could've at least waited 24h, when you posted nobody said anything on this thread about the bike

Next year he should come down with a Ducati Panigale, maybe he'll finally clock in a sub 3 and be able to brag in front of absolutely no one about his achievement

Not sure it is the right topic for this question but not sure either that my question deserves it's own topic. So yesterday I decided to put on some new race parts to start testing the setup a little bit before the next few races instead of crash testing on race day. Good on me, because I'm still fine tuning to get it right. So I replaced my GX AXS cage with a garbaruk cage and in the same time I fitted a fresh XO1 cassette to replace my GX cassette, This setup is a hell of a lot lighter, but the cage doesn't really seem that stiff. Funny enough, it shifts perfectly on all the bigger cogs (where you'd assume cage stiffness plays the biggest part ?), but where it seems not great is the 3 smallest cogs. I tried every B-Gap setting possible to try and get it better, but it's still not great, especially under load. I put a fresh chain on (KMC gold ti, I actually cut it a little bit longer than the previous one (two outer, three inners), it's a lot better, which is a bit surprising because the previous chain was already a freshie from december, as the old one wasn't working on the brand new sram chainring. Questions are : is there a break-in period for a fresh cassette ? I could test with the old cassette see if the shifting on the small cogs is perfect, I might, but I'd find it a bit odd, I can't remember ever having shifting problems on a fresh cassette/chain combo, although the fact that I'm not using an eagle chain could be a factor (cassette says "eagle chains only"). I notice as is that my limit screws aren't event touching, yet the alignement of the derailleur with the smallest cog is almost not "out" enough, which could explain why it's so hard to get the smallest cog "On". I've actually removed a spacer that was behind the cassette, but it's still not quite out enough. I'm now wondering if the garbaruk cage has a tiny different offset or if maybe I put the spring in the derailleur back the wrong way (don't thing there's a way but hey ?) or if it might maybe be a bit tired and needs replacing ? Opinions? Right now it is totally rideable, I just find having to ease of a bit and wait a second to engage the 3 smallest cogs not really acceptable on a top end setup.

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I’m not following, wasn’t there a new epic released like 3 months ago with a new rear shock system ?

Come on, we were just finishing with the war stories when @babse arrived, wasn't that far behind 😅

ooof, didn't go that far in the analysis. all I can say is that usually I aim to do rougly 390/400w for 3,5/4.5 mins on the main climbs, and yesterday those numbers were waaaaay below that on chappies and suikers, I pretty much did those climbs at 107% FTP 😅. Yet I somehow finished close to the front of the main bunch. 🤷 2‍98 NP / 251 avg / 284 weighted for 70kg. the gap between avg and NP says it all I think. I must say when I rolled to the front of my group at the top of Chappies willing to use my motorbike racers skills to close the gap in the descent and was hit by a block headwind I immediately regretted it 🤣

Yes, agree with you for most CTCT and also mostly for MTB races, but yesterday it was on on the descents too (at least anything past constantia). Not a lot of freewheeling for me in the descents yesterday after loosing touch with the front on chappies and then again suikers 😅

I would've said kind of the opposite, or at least that looking at both help. I find sometimes I have very high NP and low average when I'm either hard on the gas or freewheeling, whereas on a really hard race from start to finish, where you've got to pedal even on the descents, average and weighted average are a bit closer to NP.

Ooookay so, Stage 1 and two the same day, in my opinion, I wouldn't like it, because then it's two high intensity efforts the same day to start with. I must say the usual prologue or TT on day 2 is quite nice actually. I liked it when stage 1 was a sprint stage, then TT, then hill top finishes. Mixing male and women elites, eish. Actually how did they organise it this year ? Losts of 30+ (even many 40+) are stronger than half the elite field, so separating them from the Elite field but mixing the men and women, I don't really see the point of it. Having separate groups is nice because it gives you more chances to 1st : win something, 2nd : have an interesting race. It's less fun when you spend 4 days on the elite train trying to spot if one of your fellow vets isn't checking out among 6 elites, and that you end up only racing on the TT and on the final climb. But that only works when there are enough vets to fill those age cat groups. I would personnally just force any licenced rider to race in their age cat or 1 down if they want to, but no licenced riders in open. And fill the open cat with 1 day licence holders, to make it a proper group where your weekend riders can win something, and not getting smashed by a team of guys who decided they didn't want competition.

what sense of achievement do you get from cheating your way in a sub 3 🤣 I never understood this obsession for sub3s anyways, it's a race, not a TT, but anyways. Worst part of the story is that guy went down chappies during the race? Sounds so dangerous he should be banned for life from any other race.

so sad to read all these stories of people going out of a good time and finishing in an ambulance or worse 😕