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This is so 100% true - I'm proper mulling over giving a review for 3 or 4 stars because the seller did not make full disclosure on the colours - in the pictures it was clearly black with white branding but on arrival it was black with pink branding. The seller said, "oh couldn't you see in the pictures ?". I said "no" and asked a few people who agreed that the pink was clearly white in the pics. The seller should've offered to take the item back with refund but he did not. If he had, I still would've kept the item and given him a star rating. But I know that if I give him 3 or 4 stars he'll be pissed and come back at me and he really was a really nice guy. This isn't really, always the solution. As above, I still would've kept the item but the seller should've disclosed in the advert, in the discussions or offered to refund and return.

that's new - and that's the answer - just go and give bad reviews - might shake them up

My opinion on this is that some people have all their notification settings switched off and they don't list their telephone numbers so they simply do not receive the messages requesting info or offers to purchase. I wanted to buy a saddle from someone and sent about 5 messages over the course of about 8 or 9 days asking for them to please make contact so that I could buy the saddle. I wasn't going to negotiate or anything. Eventually I got so the hell in that I offered them half - thinking that will maybe get their attention. They replied a few days later that it was sold. Pity that you cant review someone with whom you did not buy something from.

ZWIFT has become insanely expensive, especially for a household with more than one account - my wife and I both have individual accounts and the annual cost is now ridiculous. Still waiting on their "Family Membership Plan"... ... ... ...

Hey there - just noticed that start location has changed from Pedal and Sprocket ? Why ? Sadly the new start is not convenient.

So my thinking was heading towards the contents of each individuals sweat with regards minerals, iron, magnesium, etc as perhaps some if these are more aggressive. I do not sweat bucketloads but I do take a special homeopathic metals and minerals formula to boost my naturally low levels that lead to excessive cramp. This was my thinking, but my wife does not take this supplement and nor do my mates who have recently (last 2 years) also started to suffer from the "see-through-crack" dilemma. Maybe I just don't drink enough beer.

you referring to my hand desperately trying to hold the shorts up and wide apart so that the other hand can take a picture ?

Thanks pal but its not the saddle issue. Same happens to my wife and also to our mates with the new generation Assos bibs.

For all of you to whom this has clearly never happened before, here is a one year old pair of Assos Mille GTS shorts, worn no more than once per week in this period. The thinning starts in the centre of the panels and not at the seams.

the fabric of my shorts and those of my wife's are most certainly not stretched "at its extreme" on any ride. Our shorts are the correct fit.

nope

So what brands then ? Castelli for me was even worse than the Assos although their new shorts seem to have differently designed panels that run horizontal instead of vertical.

I only use my old bibs on the IDT - once they've already gone see through...

This is my point exactly ! I started off with reckless abandon like yourself but the shorts went see through so I started to follow manufacturer's guidelines, etc. I now doing everything "right" but my shorts still go see through, albeit that they last slightly longer. So my point exactly is that it happens always to some people and never to others. The point of this thread is to try and find some commonality.

Did you read my post from start to end ? This is exactly the problem, I do use a wash bag, gentle wash, zero enzyme washing powder, etc. This proves my point exactly that some people can look after bibs terribly and they'll never go see through whilst some of us treat them impeccably but they still go see-through in a relatively short space of time. I honestly think it's to do with percentage of salts, minerals, iron, magnesium, etc in some people's sweat.

We don't use fabric softener at all - it's not necessary with the softness of the water in JHB.

It's the bit just above and below the waistband of the baggies that goes see through... and it looks kuk, even if you're an exhibitionist...

Hi there - I picked up on this comment and want to discuss further but don't want to high-jack this thread. Please have a look here and jump on board this discussion :

I know this has come up every now and again but with no real answers, solutions or constructive feedback. Generally people are quick to say that Bib shorts are not meant to live forever, get over it and throw them out. But when you are forking out R5k for Assos shorts and they go see through after only a year, this is surely not on. I noticed a mention of this today on another forum topic and did not want to hijack that thread to discuss this matter and hence have started a new thread. Kindly refrain from same comments as I've had before and no silly retorts from people to whom this does not happen as it seems to only happen to some people and not others. I have had this now with every brand that I have tried including Castelli (all styles) and Assos (Mille GTS and Equipe RS) and everyone thinks i'm crazy as this seems to. In some instances this happens within 3 months of wearing a bib (max) once per week. We have changed washing powder to one with no enzymes as I read that enzymes in washing powder could destroy the lycra when it nukes the dirty stuff. And we put the bibs into a "washing bag" that go into the machine on a cool and short "hand wash cycle". We dry them flat and out of the sun but both my and my wife's Assos go transparent, albeit with our current washing regimen, in less than 18 months of being used on rotation maximum of once per week. This is crazy because some people have Assos bibs that are 5 years old and still as good as new. I have also noticed, however, within our cycling groups, that this has started happening to others and also in relatively short periods of time since the bibs were new. Perhaps the manufacturers are making the fabrics "cooler" and "lighter" and hence less durable ?

I've had same with Samsung - I bought a Samsung laser printer that was so bad it literally did not work when humidity was greater than about 35% - I complained and was told to take a hike so I gave a 1 Star review on their website that was not posted because it "went against their policies and standards". Take-a-lot are pretty good, so long as keep within their rules that are not unreasonable.

Is there any way to tell if the item is fake ? I've read some terrible reviews of the "outright fake" chains branded as shimano.

Hey Ouzo Thanks, but according to organisers, this is actually the section with the most climbing...

Hi Wesley - thanks for posting this here - I've been following on FB and keen to join this ride but have a few questions. Some advise please for a newbie to a 200km ride on how one would go about deciding which start group to leave with ? The last thing one wants is to be the one holding up a group but one also wants to ride with the fastest group that you can manage. The longest (one day) road ride I've done so far would be Dischem R4S at an average (and for the most part comfortable) pace of 33 km/hr with no stops and only in a peloton for maybe just over half the route but I'm not sure how this would relate to the this route and the additional +-80km ? Also, I assume the groups stop at every water stop or is this a group decision as to whether to stop or not ? And if so, how long are the water / lunch stops ? Also, I see that lunch stop is from 10:00 with the first group leaving P&S at 07:00 - so with no stops at all, covering 120km in 3 hours relates to an average speed of 40 km/hr - not 30 km/hr ? Thanks.

Yup - logged the claim on Sunday arvie - the new BOA dials (complete set) arrived this afternoon with DHL - 4 days from receipt of my claim.!! Amazing service.

Thanks so much for this thread - I google searched for where I buy a new BOA and found this thread. My one cable is missing a portion of the housing and the clasp has started slipping. I uploaded my claim now - took all of about 2 minutes and got an immediate response. Let's see from here - I'll update as I hear.