BLACKvoodoo

ek dink dit was 1277m

I found the 50 quite tough, Back ache mostly.

New one, new one , new one

Ride the new one , With a 29er peddling is a formality

Noted..

We don't know for sure that there are those companies that don't sell 'branded frames' as 'unbranded' I'm saying that if I had a company making Carbon frames you can't rely on one manufacturer to keep you afloat, never put all your eggs in one basket, It's business suicide.

Just a matter of interest, Were the bikes or bike insured? If so did you give the 'returner' his spent cash back?

Yes but is it the same quality hops?

Ok Covie let's just agree to disagree.

That's like having a friend over offering him a beer when your fridge is full of Windhoek but running down to the bottlestore to buy him 1 black label because it's cheaper....... I'm done with this Debate it's stupid.

I'm in the manufacturing industry , We won't go find the 'cheapest' raw material because we are buying in bulk and getting the best price anyway. Why would any company who make frames for Spez try finding "lower" grade carbon fibre ( if it even exists) and ignore their own quality control to make "cheaper" frames. My point is they make frames for eg. spez when the orders are low they still produce at 100% production but then sell the 'overruns ' off as 'chinese cheapys' they still need to keep a big work force employed. Sounds more logical than . "we make cheaper bikes when we feel like it"

I also hear job creation getting flung around, So the parts come in and it takes two guys I'm guessing 10-15min to assemble each bike. Hell it took me 20 mins and I don't even have the right tools. A far cry from "job creation"

I'm just saying i can give Burry my bike, he would still win the epic, So to get all excited because Momsen frame came 10th big Faarkin wnk

People support what they ride because they are ALL THE SAME

I find it hard to believe that some people on this forum still believe that the frame they are riding wasn't made in the east.

Momsen is a Chinese cheapy

Just do as I said BBF.

WOT! Dude, why don't you just give him a Jack hammer some caustic soda and a flame thrower.

It's been 9 hours since my last smoke...... I can't wait until I get home crack my first cold one and light up a cigi.......

Anodising is a chemical process just use acetone (aka nail polish remover) to remove the paint. There might be a layer of clear varnish that will also be removed but that you can just spray back on.

What a load of K@k

Ja "local" term used VERY liberally What's local about it ? the fact that it's assembled on SA soil?

WTF

Remember guys it's also just a job, maybe they've had enough " no thanks, just browsing."

You've got to compare apples with apples , Mild steel wire is hardly treated wire braid.... Would you buy your wife a glass wedding ring and call it a diamond??