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http://www.forestedge.co.za/petrus-se-brand-cycling-trail.html http://www.sanparks.co.za/assets/images/parks/garden_route/mountain_bikes/petrus-route.jpg or download the google earth file and get the coordintes from: http://www.sanparks.co.za/assets/docs/parks_grnp/mountain_bikes/petrus-route.kmz

Easy enough to park at Garden of Eden, ride up to Diepwalle, enjoy the view and ride back to Garden of Eden. The locals do it all the time. The problem is the start of the 'reverse' first single track section is not well (at all) marked, remember you doing it in reverse. So probably easier to get a map and co-ordinates and plug it into your gps/phone.

LC, I'm not sure where you read that the SUPER was an entry level frame. The info I've been able to find says that the Super was the top of the line frame, made from SL tubing, until about 1983, when the Master came into being. I think there were even Super Mexico models, in ref to Eddy Merckx's 1972 World Record in Mexico 1972. In other words, I think the Super is as valuable as any Master, though Masters seem to be more in demand because of the Gilco tubing. Anyway, that's what I've read, as is the following, 'stolen' from the interwebs!! ========================== Colnago Super Frame Dating (12.18.2011) ========================== 1968 -- "Super" decal on chain stay 1968 -- Fork crown (sand cast) with two holes in the points at each side 1968 -- Fork tangs wide, no cutouts 1968 -- Club cutouts in all three lugs 1968 -- Bottom bracket shell with drilled holes (eight in circle plus one in center) ---- 1970 -- Fork crown (investment cast) semi-sloping, flat front and back with two holes in the points at each side 1970 -- "Playing card" club decal graphics (inspired by 1970 Milano-San Remo victory) ---- 1971 -- Fork crown with clubs in top and two holes in each side 1971 -- Fork tangs narrow, no cutouts (or rarely no tangs) 1971 -- Club cutouts in all three lugs but club in lower head lug is now larger 1971 -- Hole in lower point of seat lug (last year) 1971 -- Bottom bracket shell with club cutout ---- 1972 -- Black Club/COLNAGO decal on head tube/seat tube (two seat tube Worlds bands) and COLNAGO on down tube 1972 -- Fork tangs with two holes (or very rarely three holes tangs or no tangs) 1972 -- Derailleur cable guide braze-ons top of bottom bracket shell 1972 -- Water bottle braze-ons on downtube ---- 1973 -- Wreath seat tube decal with Worlds band at top and bottom 1973 -- Fork crown with clubs on top but no holes in each side 1973 -- Fork tangs with club cutouts (or rarely two hole tangs or no tangs) 1973 -- Club cutout in lower head lug only 1973 -- Introduction of the Super Pantografata ---- 1974 -- Shifter braze-ons on down tube (option before this) ---- 1975 -- Mexico model introduced 1975 -- Diagonal Worlds band added behind black Club/COLNAGO head tube decal 1975 -- Diagonal Worlds band with yellow Club/COLNAGO head tube decal used for one year 1975 -- Vertical COLNAGO seat tube decal with single diagonal Worlds band at top ---- 1976 -- Fork crown with COLNAGO added to clubs on top 1976 -- Short Campagnolo or COLNAGO dropouts ---- 1977 -- Fork crown with shallow triangles cut into back (no recessed brake bolt) 1977 -- Top tube brake cable guide braze-ons (an option before this) ---- 1978 -- Fork crown for recessed brake bolt with shallow triangles cut into back 1978 -- Brake bridge for recessed brake bolt ---- 1980 -- Fluted seat stay caps engraved COLNAGO and straight seat stays (no longer biconical shape) 1980 -- Brake bridge with cast square boss for recessed brake bolt ---- 1981 -- Chain stay bridge is small spool shape (no longer tube shape) ---- 1982 -- Chain stays stamped COLNAGO on sides 1982 -- Derailleur cable routing on underside of bottom bracket ---- 1983 -- Aerodynamic fork crown NOTE: Year dates are approximate; changes might have occurred the end of one year or the beginning of the next for example. Paint schemes, panels, decals and chrome varied according to how importers spec'd their frames, so this all varied considerably and there are anomalies. Dates and details based on the Classic Rendezvous archives, the Wool Jersey Gallery, and Colnago and Bikcology catalogs. Serial numbering only started for Colnago on USA-bound bikes when the CPSC started requiring tracking, etc. West Coast Cycles was importing Colnago at the time and the serial numbers started for their product. There is still no way to determine manufacturing date by the numbers, except that they are 1979 or later....

Man that's one lovely OLMO! I must say I'd be tempted to restore rather than respray, but I'm not the man on the ground, so difficult to make any call. Reading up on Olmo it seems their frames ranged from the sublime, of which yours CrMo seems to be one, to the bloody rubbish. I bought a Competition Olmo from LC a few months back, a nice frame, but nowhere as nice as yours.

A true labour of love LC. She's beautiful, what size sprocket are you using? Anything smaller than a 25 would be too much for me! But an excellent job, I hope she takes you many miles.

Not decided yet what to do with her. She's really a beautiful bike, so may just keep looking at her for a few weeks and then decide. Once I've decided I'll let you all know

Chat to the guys at the BIKE SHOP. They'll know who's in town, where rides (mtb and road) and when rides are leaving from etc. And there's always the Sabrina swim, run cycle (mtb) starting on 28th, I think.

Not sure about that!!! Went for a ride on my MTB yesterday. Had to travel about 6km on a gravel road to get to my main ride area. It's more or less a long 3km downhill, then a an even longer 3km uphill, starting off steeply, but easing out towards the top, last 1km. Anyway, on the downhill I pass this older gentleman (probably same age as me, though I don't see myself that way), smoking his pipe and more or less freewheeling down the gravel hill on this 1960s ish looking bike, with carrier etc. I reach the bottom, start peddling furiously to get up the steepest section. After about 2 or 3 minutes, I'm gasping and this bike comes past me, silently, with the dude still peddling occasionally. I'm perplexed for a second or 2, then I realise it's an old electric bike, as the guy disappears up the hill puffing away at his pipe!!! strue story

The hanger's mine, but not the helicopter.

Built up bikes are stacked upside down in a small room, 4 x 4 m, but the majority, frames, bars, wheels, are in a BIG container, used to be a helicopter hanger (not mine, unfortunately).

I've known I have a problem for some time, but it's not helped!! I'm lucky I live on a farm, so have the space, or the storage anyway. I think I've got more bikes that my LBS, I think about 65 know, though only about 20 are ridable, the others in various stages of completion.

Yeah, they really are beautiful and the ride is fantastic, but then I think most of the high end Italian bikes of the 80s and 90s (steel) were like that. But they're all different. My Tommasi Super Prestige has a really short wheel base, so is a real hill climb or sprint machine, whereas my Daccordi(s) have much longer wheel bases and are real 100km bikes.

Mind you, I need to stop buying bikes, period! 6 in the last 6 weeks. Used to be a hobby, then a passion, now I think a COMPULSION!!!

55cm c2c seat tube 54cm c2c top tube I think I paid too much for it, R10k, but it's in pristine condition, with Shamals, a panto'd seat post and the kevlar saddle is just too nice. weighs in at 8.5kg (so ex owner tells me) The owner (ex) bought it new in '93 and he's not ridden it much. He lives overseas for 8 months, here for 4 and prefers his mtbs here, roads just too dangerous he says. He rides other bikes when he's overseas. My other MO is a slightly later model, has the seat stays going into the seat lug, I think it's a '95. That one I have Record 8spd, with Deltas, I think the last generation, about '94. I need to stop buying Nago's now, I have 8 of them and I'm broke!

Just bought this today. Pristine condition, Dura Ace 7400. I'm open to offers!

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Could turn this around and ask how come some now in T Sky were pretty average before?

Just seen I'm on my TRIPLE NELSON!!!! Thanks guys. Javadude, I can't find any reference to Pelizzoli building Carrera frames, it seems Carrera was started in 1989: http://www.carrera-podium.it/en/ anyway, I'll keep searching of course. For those collecting real antiques, I came across this site, very interesting. http://www.oldbike.eu/museum/

Just bought this, cost me R1.8K, but I think it was worth it. Not too many of these around, the Italian ones anyway. Lot's of the UK Halfords ones, made in China. But these were, and are still as far as I know, hand built in Italy.

Just bought this, cost me R1.8K, but I think it was worth it. Not too many of these around, the Italian ones anyway. Lot's of the UK Halfords ones, made in China. But these were, and are still as far as I know, hand built in Italy.

Exactly, they do little for you, but as much as they can for themselves! Is that what you're saying?

Yo must be employed by DISCOVERY, obviously, no way do you get what you pay for, otherwise how would they make so much profit??? Should make you think!

How will you feel if you must sell everything you have to pay for your operation when discovery wont pay the bill 100% Do you mean DISCOVERY HEALTH (or whatever they are called), IS the real problem????? Wouldn't surprise me, I was with them for years, then DISCOVERED that my life wasn't worth as much to them as it was to me. Probably why they're called DISCOVERY edit grammar