ASTANA

now you know why we like the road! Speed, thrill and bunch - some of the stuff you just don't get on dirt. MTB has its place for me though Doing both really is the best of both worlds

Ratchet - buy Sidi or Specialized - very nice both of them Road and MTB

nice backdrop! congrads

There are more than on initiative to donate to so my donation already found a foundation/cause.. not complaining just saying - its suppose to be anonymous its a cause, not a competition instead say 5 of 10 or so hubbers contributed - thank them in private and you can even post the total amount donated, this way people will contribute if they want to Good initiative - cancer really is something where money towards research and treatment makes a big difference. Too many people die and could have been saved...

Not being funny - but should n't private donations be anonymous ? back n buddy - "give from the heart" first AM and now Ken... good initiative no need to mention names though

always the bad part - this will not regenerate by its self good luck ASTANA2009-10-26 02:06:58

I think he fell of his bike.... but' date=' I'm only guessing!! [/quote'] could be a swarm of bugs at full speed they can damage you really bad

I'm not one for "sighting" people for not wearing helmets and doing this and that etc but this I can not understand.... throwing sachets on the road... These guys are prob the same people who throw their KFC/MC D takeway junk out of the car while driving or trowing empty cans out of the car.. Thank you for thinking you own the road. If its not your house/property no need to litter. Don't know what they think - its a race, right - but you can't have people to clean a 100odd km stretch of road! These riders are the ones that give cycling a bad name.

Stupid. The prob is the earplugs. You will look like a real ******** if you swim around with a condom over your ipod and a condom over your head or in your ears. for everything else - use a condom

I drive past these guys almost every day coming from work in somerset going to home in stellies. They ride crazy. One time saw one of them nearly getting hit by a car up the Lord Charles hill on the R44. They ride in a bunch the full yellow line area - which is quite big going up there - and still some of them jump the bunch sprinting around the group into the traffic lane - people drive up there at 80km/h. The car had to swing into the faster lane otherwise he would have hit the guy. You guys know how unstable these guys ride - elite and every other group. The idea seams good but hell - they ride like a bunch of idiots. As if its not their problem if they get hit by a car. For those who like to "report" incidents - all of these riders wore helmets so at least the are legal hahaha

my point exactly

HT just feels better for me - that real MTBing. Full Sus - don't climb lekker and also heavy and pricey. HT for me for everything.

Lance coming here to do what ? Epic ? When is epic again ? nice for SA - just don't take him into the squatter camps - that's not a clear image of SA ASTANA2009-10-22 04:16:09

O ja remember that now! Wasn't these a lot more last season ? What bike was R180K last season ? either ride or bicycling somewhere last year

You are as dumb as the rest that throughout this posting condone this BAD BEHAVIOR with their lame remarks....... including some of our so called highly praised and eminent "peacemakers"!!!!!! SOLID LINE mate SOLID LINE...... !!!!!!!! Eks seker jy sal agter `n trok sit tot die lyn ophou om dan verby te gaan as jy bestuur' date=' so dan verstaan ek dit, maar in meeste gevalle sal ons almal verby gaan so dan kan hy verby die ouens ook ry. Dit lyk net of die pad redelik stil is, so aankomende verkeer behoort nie `n probleem te wees nie - dit lyk anyway soos `n back road. Solid line - beteken nie regtig baie nie. Dis maak deel uit van die verkeers tekens wat elke dag deur almal geignoreer word. Parkering op sypaaikies/No parking zones-Stop strate - 4 rigtings - spoed beperkings ens ens. Sommige "solid-lines" is op baie stupid plekke en mens kan myle vooruit sien wat aankom ! Dink hierdie isssue is belaglik. Dis elkeen se eie ding as hy so wil ry. Jy sien nie mense jou afneem as jy op jou selfoon praat in die kar, of sonder seatbelt ry, of eet terwyl jy ry ens nie, so hoekom die mense afneem as hulle `n verkeers reel oortree ? [/quote'] Ja en is seker dit is dieselfde attitude as hierbo wat jy na motoriste uitstraal. Gn wonder hulle wil fietsryers met hulle nissans raakry nie (Susan se Facebook groep) Punt van die saak is - dis elke ou se eie ding. As iemand in die reen op die N1 wil oefen sonder `n helmet dan is dit sy eie issue. Natuurlik straal dit `n swak beeld uit vir die res van ons, maar dis die lewe. Daar sal altyd mense wees wat in anyway gaan maak wat hulle wil. So solank jou kant skoon is dan is dit goed. Wat het toot vir taxi's of enige ander oortreder al ooit gehelp. Al manier hoe mense leer is om te voel. En as iemand hul humeur verloor (soos om mense raak te ry aspris) dan is hulle anyway kriminele en sou een of ander tyd iets stupids aangevang het. hy staan nie op in die oggend om fietsryers te gaan omry nie - dis net `n trigger gewees vir `n onstabiele mens. (soos iemand wat jou skiet vir `n selfoon)

very nice. What's the price on these ?

You are as dumb as the rest that throughout this posting condone this BAD BEHAVIOR with their lame remarks....... including some of our so called highly praised and eminent "peacemakers"!!!!!! SOLID LINE mate SOLID LINE...... !!!!!!!! Eks seker jy sal agter `n trok sit tot die lyn ophou om dan verby te gaan as jy bestuur, so dan verstaan ek dit, maar in meeste gevalle sal ons almal verby gaan so dan kan hy verby die ouens ook ry. Dit lyk net of die pad redelik stil is, so aankomende verkeer behoort nie `n probleem te wees nie - dit lyk anyway soos `n back road. Solid line - beteken nie regtig baie nie. Dis maak deel uit van die verkeers tekens wat elke dag deur almal geignoreer word. Parkering op sypaaikies/No parking zones-Stop strate - 4 rigtings - spoed beperkings ens ens. Sommige "solid-lines" is op baie stupid plekke en mens kan myle vooruit sien wat aankom ! Dink hierdie isssue is belaglik. Dis elkeen se eie ding as hy so wil ry. Jy sien nie mense jou afneem as jy op jou selfoon praat in die kar, of sonder seatbelt ry, of eet terwyl jy ry ens nie, so hoekom die mense afneem as hulle `n verkeers reel oortree ? ASTANA2009-10-22 00:50:52

That's what the marketing guys would like you to think! Riding one of these says "I've got money"' date=' it says nothing about skill, style, passion or general likeability. Over here in Holland these bikes are generally seen as midlife crises bikes![/quote'] dont have enough money to buy a decent sports car like aston martin or lambo , masaratti - so instead you buy `n moerse expensive road bike to show off with. In Europe they will give you sh*t - in SA you will be accepted in the Vets bunch

I'd rather buy 2 decent bikes - road and MTB with that. If I had the cash.... lol If I see a guy on this bike and he cant climb or ride a decent pace I will not shut up - tossers

There is no shoulder and does not seem to be a lot of traffic so if a car approach then it can pass easily. otherwise the riders can just move to the side to allow the car to pass. Speed limit on a road like that 60?- 80km/h max so not too bad - can easily slow down and time to pass

One don't need money for a trip like this. Pack a sleeping bag - small tent and spare clothes. Take wallet and begin your trip from home. depending on where you live that is. Did a 3 day trip last year preparing for Transbaviaans - started from home gravel roads all the way to Prins Albert

i think this is stupid like racing a car against a fighter plane - top gear style way cooler if both raced 2 events - both on road and both off road - get a average time and there you have the winner same gear etc ASTANA2009-10-20 03:04:59

every sportsman talk about their sport. Just depends on what you talk about. General speculation on international topics etc is ok - talking bout how you won a race - not cool if you were not asked to explain in full detail. Some people like to blow their own horn - that just irritating.

yep if you work too hard you'll only burn muscle after you burned all consumed carbs and blood sugar. Best is long slow rides - LONG is importand. Short hard will only increase your fitness etc. Best to loose weight is to go for a nice long run before breakfast - burns fat like you can not believe. And then obviously low carb diet / healthy eating. (if you eat right you can loose a lot without even doing anything else)