What this thread is relly about is that modern society has become desperately ill. Television, advertising and all sorts of stuff has contributed to a society who no longer have decent morals. Generally speaking of course. We have become selfish in the extreme and have lost empathy and sympathy for our fellow "man" (for want of a better word.) People want to do their own thing and it no longer matters whether it is moral or legal. We want it all, and we want it now. Rules are only in place for the law-abiding citizens and everybody else can just go to hell. We don't want help or interference from others regardsless of the dangers we face by doing stuff wrong. I agree that when someone else's action endangers your own life or well being that we have a right to be heard and should be free to express our feelings on this issue. In my books, it doesn't matter what a woman does, you just don't hit them. And when this happens it is symptomatic of the world and it's values gone wrong. What has happened to us? Why do we do this? Simple, our own attitudes about life have created disprespect for ourselves firstly and secondly to our fellow beings. We swear and gesticulate wildly at each other in the traffic and almost shoot each other over a small piece of road to be on. This is sick and unless we all start addressing our own attitudes, we are headed for disaster. Yeah, I know there are still some (a lot of) pretty decent people out there who genuinely want to help their fellows by pointing out their mistakes, but what for? For a smack in the head? No thanks. Consider though, that the first approach was wrong. (not a good enough excuse for the retaliation, but still worng.) It matters not so much what you said, but how you said it. Some people are best left to learn their own lessons and if riding without lights, helmets and other stuff is what they want to do. Leave them be. Try and find another route. You are not the appointed guardian of mankind and some people will only learn by their own mistakes. It may take a tragedy to learn the lesson, but leave them be. It is not your choice but their own. You have only to worry about your own safety. It just does not surprise me though, that motorists think we are a crazy bunch of reckless lunatics with this sort of bahaviour. Have we become like the lemmings? Hell bent on our own self destruction. I would of course like to get my hands on this creep and help him right, but to what end? When are we going to realise that we are making huge mistakes and stop being so damn self righteous, pompous and arrogant? Leave the ijits to figure stuff out for themselves. If someone endangers your well being while you're on the road, wait for them to move on and take another route. Never argue with a fool because someone looking in on this will not be able to tell which one is the bigger fool.