shammy_rash

Cyclemania, like I said we know there is a problem and it is serious, but we still can have a laugh or two. When it cmes to the crunch we will stand up and make serious suggestions.

yes DQ them.

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cyclemania - I agree

shammy_rash' date=' I agree with you but the rider courtesy?!? Like I said... You don't have the Boonen's doing it... why must the Malcolm Lange's, Rheeders and Jay Thompson's do it? At that point in the race it's flat out... 1st place = lots of prize money... The finish should be set up before the start of the race and the managers should make the riders aware of any dangers... so if the sh*t hits the fan then blame the manager... Sorry Cruxie! [/quote'] Jason, with regards to the signals I know no-one shows them in last km of the race, meant throughout race. But you must admit would be funny if they were to signal and then miss the sprint of course don't think the team or sponsors would be happy

Klapperknop , this was a tragic incident that should not occur in any race. I just feel that in this case both cyclists and organisers are partly to blame. And feel that both should share the responsibility of this. This topic could go on forever and ome feel they are right and the others do too. The fact that the organisers made an attempt to prevent another crash - which incidentally (and unfortunatly) caused another crash - shows that the organisors do worry about our safety. I'm fortunate that I was not part of the crash and would probably have had the same amount of anger as the other cyclists should I have been part of the fall. But we sometimes need to take a step back and think carefully before we make hast comments.

At the end of the day, no matter what the organisors would have done, the gutter still would have forced the riders to the right, even if the beacons or tape or any other form of barrier had been placed gradually in, the riders still would have cycled to the edge - which in turn would have caused a crash anyway. Point is we cyclists know that the end is coming and we also know that the finish area is always lined with barriers or markers. Perhaps admitting to rider error or lack of rider courtesy (signals) could be part of the cause. The other being more visible warnings shoulld have been ued to taper the cyclists towards the end, as it seems we cyclists still need to be guided in our own game

This is what the UCI has to say about the finish area: A zone of at least 100 metres before and 50 metres after the finish line will be protected with barriers. It will be accessible only to organisational staff, the riders, paramedics, team managers and accredited press. The organiser must strictly control access to this zone. The finish line shall comprise a line of 4 cm in width, painted in black on a white strip 72 cm wide thus leaving 34 cm of white on each side of the black line. For mountain bike races the white strip must be 20 cm, thus leaving 8 cm on each side of the black line. Finish Section The organiser shall place permanent panels indicating: kilometre zero (the real start), the fiftieth kilometre and then the last 25, 20, 10, 5, 4, 3 and 2 km points. The last kilometre shall be marked by a red triangle. Apart from the finish banner, no banner may be put up after the red triangle. The organiser shall, before the finish line, provide a detour which all vehicles (including motorbikes) must follow other than those of the event management, the commissaires, the official doctor and the team manager of the winner, provided that the latter has a clear lead of at least one minute over the rest of the field. In road, mountain bike, BMX and cyclo-cross events, a banner labelled "FINISH" must be fixed above the finishing line and perpendicular to the road or course. Should the banner have disappeared or been damaged, the finish line shall be indicated by a black and white chequered flag. Such a flag shall also be used for any finish or for the passing of any intermediate point for a classification as well as at the top of mountain passes during road races.

Just to add my bit. I would once again like to show that some PDI development riders have no idea about nothing in this life. I was lucky enough to be confronted by a PDI development rider who was hard up for cash - I work in a bike shop and was taken aback when the young rider wanted to trade in his bike for cash. When I asked if he had his sponsors permission he earnistly replied "yes". When I wanted to call the sponsor he quietly took his bike and left the shop. Only guessing that he went somewhere else. SO MUCH FOR PDI riders. It's time that we stand up and say that only those who deserve a place should be given the chance. But it is not fair to anyone that an unknowledgable and unskilled person gets placed based on skin colour. Africa will never become a better place like -as things like this are creating even more bitterness and anger than ever before. If someone has the skill and ability and is on the level that is required then by all means give them the position but to put them in the team and then want to develop does not work.

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lyk reg vir my.

spinnekop, that leggera guy that got caught with the funriders was me. Almost made me look like one of them. Speke - rules are rules: no chip no results, no points.

Hey spinnekop jy het die een gewen,mar net omdat daar stadige ryers voor my was,so kyk mar uit die volgende race. well done anyway. shammy_rash38893.5990856481

Hey cruxpearl thats not right i was 5th,thanks no chain shammy_rash38893.5999305556