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LOGIC 101

 

An interesting letter in the Australian Shooter Magazine this week:

 

"If you consider that there has been an average of 160,000 troops in the Iraq Theatre of operations during the past 22 months, and a total of 2112 deaths, that gives a firearm death rate of 60 per 100,000 soldiers.

 

The firearm death rate in Washington, DC is 80.6 per 100,000 for the same period. That means you are about 25 per cent more likely to be shot and killed in the US capital which has some of the strictest gun control laws in the U..S., than you are in Iraq.

 

Conclusion: The U.S. should pull out of Washington.

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LOGIC 101

 

An interesting letter in the Australian Shooter Magazine this week:

 

"If you consider that there has been an average of 160,000 troops in the Iraq Theatre of operations during the past 22 months, and a total of 2112 deaths, that gives a firearm death rate of 60 per 100,000 soldiers.

 

The firearm death rate in Washington, DC is 80.6 per 100,000 for the same period. That means you are about 25 per cent more likely to be shot and killed in the US capital which has some of the strictest gun control laws in the U..S., than you are in Iraq.

 

Conclusion: The U.S. should pull out of Washington.

I take it that Mathematics is not a strong point amoungst Australian gun owners then?

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On Tue, 15 Jul 2008, Linus Torvalds wrote:

>

> So as far as I'm concerned, "disclosing" is the fixing of the bug. It's

> the "look at the source" approach.

 

Btw, and you may not like this, since you are so focused on security, one

reason I refuse to bother with the whole security circus is that I think

it glorifies - and thus encourages - the wrong behavior.

 

It makes "heroes" out of security people, as if the people who don't just

fix normal bugs aren't as important.

 

In fact, all the boring normal bugs are _way_ more important, just because

there's a lot more of them. I don't think some spectacular security hole

should be glorified or cared about as being any more "special" than a

random spectacular crash due to bad locking.

 

Security people are often the black-and-white kind of people that I can't

stand. I think the OpenBSD crowd is a bunch of masturbating monkeys, in

that they make such a big deal about concentrating on security to the

point where they pretty much admit that nothing else matters to them.

 

To me, security is important. But it's no less important than everything

*else* that is also important!

 

Linus

Posted (edited)

On Tue, 15 Jul 2008, pageexec@freemail.hu wrote:

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> in other words, try a better argument, possibly without bogeymen.

 

You know what - when nobody does embargoes, I'll consider your argument to

have a point.

 

In the meantime, I'm not in the least interested in your idiotic

arguments. Especially as you can't even read what I wrote:

 

> i don't see you embargo normal bug fixes, why would you embargo security

> bug fixes? they're just normal bugs, aren't they?

 

Exactly. I don't embargo them. I refuse to have anything to even _do_ with

organizations like vendor-sec that I think is a corrupt cluster-**** of

people who just want to cover their own ass.

 

They're just normal bugs.

 

But that also doesn't mean that I see any reason to make it obvious what

to do to trigger them, and cause problems at universities and such. So I

don't do "here's how to exploit it" commit logs, for example.

 

(If you haven't been at a univerisity, you don't know how many smart young

people want to "try it to see". And if you have been there, and don't

think it's a problem when they do and wouldn't be happier if they didn't,

you probably don't know what the word "empathy" means).

 

Linus

 

 

(This is gold. Linus would so fit in on this forum :D )

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