Wyatt Earp Posted September 12, 2011 Share Whoever the twit is that put's a person on Diazepam, should be shot, it's a drug for trained assassins.Agteros, I agree with not using chemicals to trick the body, but the real purpose of anti-inflammatory medication is to reduce inflammation.When people start sucking back pain medication and tranquilizers it becomes a problem for me, the pain medication does nothing for the inflammation and the tranq's just relax the brain a bit too much.Flip , I should get the wife to join the hub, she knows this stuff too well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOldGuy Posted September 12, 2011 Share So WTF is google for? True. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwissVan Posted September 13, 2011 Share Besides the health risks and not the same as "doping", doesn't anyone feel guilty for taking pain killers to help you finish a race / event? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyatt Earp Posted September 13, 2011 Share Besides the health risks and not the same as "doping", doesn't anyone feel guilty for taking pain killers to help you finish a race / event?Ja, it gives me sleepless nights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwissVan Posted September 13, 2011 Share Ja, it gives me sleepless nights. Even more reason to not use pain killers, as an athlete you require more not less sleep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotSoBigBen Posted September 13, 2011 Share It's dumb, but we all do it.After 24 hours a few years back I landed up at hospital with my kidneys going in to failure from taking Myprodol's during the event. If it wasn't for those I took near the end of 24hr last year I would not have finished the last 2 laps ..... Like Dangle says we know it's not right but at the time I couldn't care less Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caerus Posted September 13, 2011 Share Whoever the twit is that put's a person on Diazepam, should be shot, it's a drug for trained assassins.Agteros, I agree with not using chemicals to trick the body, but the real purpose of anti-inflammatory medication is to reduce inflammation.When people start sucking back pain medication and tranquilizers it becomes a problem for me, the pain medication does nothing for the inflammation and the tranq's just relax the brain a bit too much.Flip , I should get the wife to join the hub, she knows this stuff too well. Thats what you get when you see Doctors in the UK, easy to to prescribe something rather then getting to the route of the problem, you're on a time limit with the Docs there, its scary to say the least. Took me a year to be able to see a specialist. I was just following the doctors orders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witkop Posted September 13, 2011 Share Pain is a signal that something is not right in the body. To take painkillers, without addressing the cause of the pain, is a short cut to nowhere. Just as smoking and dagga are "Window" drugs to harder stuff (according to many school councillors) so are painkillers a "Window" to other "performance enhancers". If you are a cyclist you will hurt, lots, but there is a difference between DOMS and an injury. For DOMS (delayed onset of muscle soreness) RICE (rest, ice, Compression and Elevation) is the best. For other injures a whole lot of "a long time off the bike" may be required, along with prescribed physiotherapy. Painkillers and drugs should be the last resort, not the first resort. Also the more you take, the more you will need to take, as the body adapts to dosages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassie Posted September 13, 2011 Share Interesting read.... Just this past Sat I was riding with a mate of mine (who just happens to be a kidney specialist) nad after 40odd kms, my lower back started acting up painfully...So i whipped out my emergency Myprodol stash... ... and took one. All the doc said was Hmmm!!! Those are bad for your kidneys!N'uff said... So, Dangle - i feel you... Rather deal with the immediate pain and not end up in ICU with kidney failure!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1hill@aTime Posted September 13, 2011 Share What about big steaks before a race? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotSoBigBen Posted September 13, 2011 Share What about big steaks before a race? If it's from Spain it is encouraged dude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1hill@aTime Posted September 13, 2011 Share only elspaneo steaks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mushilele Posted September 13, 2011 Share I am a regular taker of anti inflammatory medication (in moderation and under a neuro's advice)as I have two spinal fusions and the musculature around the fusion will never recover to what it was when I was 25, so I have regular back pain. You have to balance your needs, I could sit at home and watch TV all day and I likely would not need the medication, but I prefer to run, ride, swim, hike, gym whatever - which means like tonight after a 12 km run this morning, my spine is aching - 2 x Cataflams before bed and tomorrow I will be fine again. I guarantee you'd need medication more if you sat at home instead of exercising ... sitting is the worst thing for a bad back. Look out for stomach and liver side effects of Myprodol ... I've taken it on an empty stomach before a waxing session and ended up doubled up in agony as searing pain tore through my abdomen. My medically trained fiance was not a bit cross that I was so dumb. I carry Myprodol with me all the time - and will use it from time to time after cycling to help with knee swelling, the effect of a riding injury in my teens. However, I'm very, very circumspect about taking drugs to mask what my body is telling me. Knee swelling tells me that my surrounding muscles, or I've pushed too hard (prolly wrong gear). I can do something about those two causes so the next time I might not need any chemical help. Funnily enough, the doing isn't always as easy as popping a capsule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOldGuy Posted September 13, 2011 Share I guarantee you'd need medication more if you sat at home instead of exercising ... sitting is the worst thing for a bad back. Look out for stomach and liver side effects of Myprodol ... I've taken it on an empty stomach before a waxing session and ended up doubled up in agony as searing pain tore through my abdomen. My medically trained fiance was not a bit cross that I was so dumb. I carry Myprodol with me all the time - and will use it from time to time after cycling to help with knee swelling, the effect of a riding injury in my teens. However, I'm very, very circumspect about taking drugs to mask what my body is telling me. Knee swelling tells me that my surrounding muscles, or I've pushed too hard (prolly wrong gear). I can do something about those two causes so the next time I might not need any chemical help. Funnily enough, the doing isn't always as easy as popping a capsule. Sure, I hear you, I only take the medication under a specialists prescription and direction though and so far I have had zero side effects, its only been good for me. I believe medication is there to assist people and there's nothing wrong with using it under a doctors prescription and direction if it improves your quality of life. Think of arthritis sufferers, they also take anti-inflammatories regularly and why not, why suffer with the ailment if you can be pain free.? I believe you weigh up your personal ambitions and decide for yourself, then discuss it with a medical doctor and get the right medication for your ailment and living conditions. If your quality of life is effected by pain and a medical professional can assist with medication, I see no rhyme or reason to not use it. Edited September 13, 2011 by GrumpyOldGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ysterman Posted September 13, 2011 Share mmm ... some truth has been spoken, but also a lot of garbage ... I'm on chronic antiflam's ... strong stuff, for more than 10yrs now ... it hasnt killed me yet, even if it does - I will still take them, much better than the pain ... something is going to kill me one day, its not going to be the pain ... So far, I've had no negative effects with any of my endurance sports with them. If I dont train for more than 2 months, its like starting over with mega pain, and then I take myprodols & other stronger stuff to get me through the initial 2 weeks of pain. But you have to be sensible about it, wouldnt recommend taking the stuff if you dont have to, they can be bad ... for me they're fantastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyatt Earp Posted September 13, 2011 Share mmm ... some truth has been spoken, but also a lot of garbage ... I'm on chronic antiflam's ... strong stuff, for more than 10yrs now ... it hasnt killed me yet, even if it does - I will still take them, much better than the pain ... something is going to kill me one day, its not going to be the pain ... So far, I've had no negative effects with any of my endurance sports with them. If I dont train for more than 2 months, its like starting over with mega pain, and then I take myprodols & other stronger stuff to get me through the initial 2 weeks of pain. But you have to be sensible about it, wouldnt recommend taking the stuff if you dont have to, they can be bad ... for me they're fantasticJust an arb. question, do you suffer from IBS at all ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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