Sequoia Posted December 7, 2007 Posted December 7, 2007 This morning driving in to work, I twice saw cyclists moving to the right of the right-most lane when turning right. This doesn't make sense to me? That means you have to cross the flow of traffic to get to the left again. The one guy was fully kitted out on a specialized tarmac. He was almost taken out when he misjudged the speed of a car and tried cutting in in front of it. That's just plain silly?I think we need more common sense when sharing the road...
Evan Andreou Posted December 7, 2007 Posted December 7, 2007 If common sense was something more people had, it wouldn't be so d@mn rare
Sequoia Posted December 7, 2007 Author Posted December 7, 2007 My dad has a favourite saying when we did something stupid - "My son, don't worry, you are simply suffering from LOCS - lack of common sense..."
Spinnekop Posted December 7, 2007 Posted December 7, 2007 And the tirade continues... "ALL US Cyclists are all dumb, arrogant sh*ts and should be shot on sight!!" VIVA!!!!!!!Spinnekop2007-12-07 02:19:50
Mudsimus Posted December 7, 2007 Posted December 7, 2007 And the tirade continues... "ALL US Cyclists are all dumb' date=' arrogant sh*ts and should be should on sight!!" VIVA!!!!!!![/quote'] You mean shot...right?
ShortLegs Posted December 7, 2007 Posted December 7, 2007 Out of curiosity, how do you propose the said cyclists should turn right when faced with a steady flow of traffic
Sequoia Posted December 7, 2007 Author Posted December 7, 2007 Nah, this topic is completely unrelated to "the tirade." I am simply trying to point out that not everyone is riding as one would expect them to. Maybe through ignorance? I just found it strange that someone who seems to be a regular cyclist, would endanger himself like that.
Spinnekop Posted December 7, 2007 Posted December 7, 2007 And the tirade continues... "ALL US Cyclists are all dumb' date=' arrogant sh*ts and should be should on sight!!" VIVA!!!!!!![/quote'] You mean shot...right? Morsdood, ja.....met eish.
Man with no name Posted December 7, 2007 Posted December 7, 2007 Fortunately I am already cycling on the wrong side of the white line.... easier to turn I had enough of Joburg city cycling in December - rather head out to the Cradle every day and enjoy some safe riding. Viva Lion Park, Viva bad road surface!
Sequoia Posted December 7, 2007 Author Posted December 7, 2007 OK, Let me explain myself better. Traffic lights are red. Three lanes - one turning left, one going straight and one turning right. Said cyclist wants to turn right. He moves to the inside of the the right-turning lane. This means that to get to the left-hand side of the road, he must now cross the flow of traffic. Wouldn't it make more sense to remain on the outside of the turning lane? Then you don't have to cross the traffic flow.
Spinnekop Posted December 7, 2007 Posted December 7, 2007 Nah' date=' this topic is completely unrelated to "the tirade." I am simply trying to point out that not everyone is riding as one would expect them to. Maybe through ignorance? I just found it strange that someone who seems to be a regular cyclist, would endanger himself like that.[/quote'] True........Same goes for motorists who does stupid, stupid, stupid stuff daily......same goes for our government.......same goes for cathlic priests.... People so dumb things. Coming onto a cycling forum pointing out to cyclists that they are stupid is like going to prison telling them they are criminals. So....we do stupid things.....as cyclists....as motorists....as what ever you are doing at any point in time.... But I am getting seriously gatvol about complaint after complaint after complaint about cyclists that are NOT on this board1 that does stupid stuff.... 1Except for Orca and Pantani
Sequoia Posted December 7, 2007 Author Posted December 7, 2007 Nah' date=' this topic is completely unrelated to "the tirade." I am simply trying to point out that not everyone is riding as one would expect them to. Maybe through ignorance? I just found it strange that someone who seems to be a regular cyclist, would endanger himself like that.[/quote'] True........Same goes for motorists who does stupid, stupid, stupid stuff daily......same goes for our government.......same goes for cathlic priests.... People so dumb things. Coming onto a cycling forum pointing out to cyclists that they are stupid is like going to prison telling them they are criminals. So....we do stupid things.....as cyclists....as motorists....as what ever you are doing at any point in time.... But I am getting seriously gatvol about complaint after complaint after complaint about cyclists that are NOT on this board1 that does stupid stuff.... 1Except for Orca and Pantani Point taken
ChrisH Posted December 7, 2007 Posted December 7, 2007 OK' date=' Let me explain myself better. Traffic lights are red. Three lanes - one turning left, one going straight and one turning right. Said cyclist wants to turn right. He moves to the inside of the the right-turning lane. This means that to get to the left-hand side of the road, he must now cross the flow of traffic. Wouldn't it make more sense to remain on the outside of the turning lane? Then you don't have to cross the traffic flow. [/quote'] Seeing that we are in SA, half the drivers in the right turn lane are probably going to actually go straight and are taking a short cut before cutting back into the straight ahead lane. It's a real problem, and one that the cyclists you saw have probably anticipated.
ShortLegs Posted December 7, 2007 Posted December 7, 2007 OK' date=' Let me explain myself better. Traffic lights are red. Three lanes - one turning left, one going straight and one turning right. Said cyclist wants to turn right. He moves to the inside of the the right-turning lane. This means that to get to the left-hand side of the road, he must now cross the flow of traffic. Wouldn't it make more sense to remain on the outside of the turning lane? Then you don't have to cross the traffic flow. [/quote'] Isn't it a traffic offence for a motorist travelling on the roads here in South Africa to wait 1-2 seconds for any cyclist to cross their path, capital offense last time I checked
Red Zone Posted December 7, 2007 Posted December 7, 2007 In some intersections it is safer to wait right against the right hand side of the road, for eg, if right turning traffic needs to wait for the through traffic from the other side, you risk getting claped from behind if you are on the left side of the right turning lane. right. Depends on the nature of the intersection. Finaly most cyclists should be able to out accelarate a car and be able to safely cross back to the left hand side of the road.
RodTi Posted December 11, 2007 Posted December 11, 2007 OK' date=' Let me explain myself better. Traffic lights are red. Three lanes - one turning left, one going straight and one turning right. Said cyclist wants to turn right. He moves to the inside of the the right-turning lane. This means that to get to the left-hand side of the road, he must now cross the flow of traffic. Wouldn't it make more sense to remain on the outside of the turning lane? Then you don't have to cross the traffic flow. [/quote'] Funny this... I ended up doing the same stupid thing the just yesterday - and will be more careful in future... I don't usually ride in traffic, preferring the muddy side of things - but chose to get some distance in on the tar, and my route home took me down a busy main-road... Because of me not being confident in traffic - I prefer to stick to the side of the road, where I can unclip and put a foot down... I came up to an intersection with a lane turning left, and a lane going straight. I figured, rather than staying on the 'left' of the 'going straight lane', which would have meant I would have been waiting at the robot for cars to approach and stop in the 'turning left lane' (whilst the robot was still red), thus putting me in between two lanes of cars, I would instead pass up alongside the traffic of the 'lane going straight', on the right hand side. This seemed like a good idea, since I was on the side of the road, could put my foot down on the midddlemannetjie, and hopefully out accelerate the cars going straight when the light hit green - thereby passing in front of them and moving over to the left... Only the schmuck in the front vehicle, obviously guessing my intentions, started revving his engine as the light was going to change, and made it very clear that he was going to get in first... Which caused me to pause - and by then it was too late... Had a few very unpleasant seconds in the middle of the intersection, waiting for all the cars that were going straight to pass, before I could slide over to the left... Next time, I will stick to the left side of the left turning lane, wait for all cars turning left to pass, and then take the gap and go straight.... Strictly speaking, this is illegal, but I'd rather do it this way and feel safer, than try that stunt again... Which, in my opinion, just proves that sometimes a cyclist must break the law to stay safe??? Or am I in the wrong?.....
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