NotSoBigBen Posted October 29, 2011 Share Is it ok to use 'normal' brake pads with carbon wheels? Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/109447-carbon-wheels-with-normal-brake-pads/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
David #7 Posted October 29, 2011 Share Not a great idea. Not going to stop to well and going to eat into your wheels. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/109447-carbon-wheels-with-normal-brake-pads/#findComment-1521063 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotSoBigBen Posted October 29, 2011 Share I guess that's why they make specific pads for them ... thanks man! Will fit the right ones tomorrow! Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/109447-carbon-wheels-with-normal-brake-pads/#findComment-1521065 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minion Posted October 29, 2011 Share It depends. Full carbon wheel: no. The carbon rim doesn't conduct the heat of braking away fast enough and normal brake pads melt. Some pads also contain ceramic compounds that can abrade the braking surface. Carbon wheels with aluminium braking surfaces: maybe. The aluminium conducts heat fast enough to stop most pads from melting (though not Campag, according to Zipp), but check what the manufacturer says. Zipp gives recommended pads for all their wheels here:http://www.zipp.com/...e/brakepads.php More info here:http://www.zipp.com/support/askjosh/carbonwheels.php Edited October 29, 2011 by Edman Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/109447-carbon-wheels-with-normal-brake-pads/#findComment-1521066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotSoBigBen Posted October 29, 2011 Share They are 'full' carbon Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/109447-carbon-wheels-with-normal-brake-pads/#findComment-1521068 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zac.A Posted October 29, 2011 Share Okay,So if you have 2 sets of wheels, one full carbon and one with an alu surface then you need 2 pairs of brake pads.If you use the carbon ones on the alu surface, small metal flakes will get embedded into the pads and then when you use them on your full carbon wheels they'll eat into the braking surface and wreak havoc. Its a pain to change whenever you change the wheels but it must be done. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/109447-carbon-wheels-with-normal-brake-pads/#findComment-1521080 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tankman Posted October 30, 2011 Share That is why you must use Swisstop yellow and Swisstop yellow brake pads only Zac! No need to change the brake pads when you change your wheels They are specifically designed to handle both braking surfaces! Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/109447-carbon-wheels-with-normal-brake-pads/#findComment-1521107 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tankman Posted October 30, 2011 Share small metal flakes will get embedded into the pads and then when you use them on your full carbon wheels they'll eat into the braking surface and wreak havoc. The small metal flakes you will find in all Shimano brake pads, they are ***! Their compound is Way too hard, even the Dura Ace ones. That's why it chows your rim! I will not use them ever again. I was quite worried that the pieces of metal would get embedded in my Swisstop brake pads also, so I checked quite regulary in the beginning but it does not! My latest set of training wheels has only ever had the Swisstop brake pads on its surface, so I'm expecting cool running for a very long time! Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/109447-carbon-wheels-with-normal-brake-pads/#findComment-1521108 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big H* Posted October 30, 2011 Share They are 'full' carbon Iets hier wat ek nie "trust" nie, brag jy of vra jy? Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/109447-carbon-wheels-with-normal-brake-pads/#findComment-1521114 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNT1 Posted October 30, 2011 Share Okay,So if you have 2 sets of wheels, one full carbon and one with an alu surface then you need 2 pairs of brake pads. Nope: That is why you must use Swisstop yellow and Swisstop yellow brake pads only Zac! No need to change the brake pads when you change your wheels They are specifically designed to handle both braking surfaces! Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/109447-carbon-wheels-with-normal-brake-pads/#findComment-1521116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christie Posted October 30, 2011 Share What Edman said The easiest solution if you don't want to swap pads the whole time is the use pads designed for rims wheels that work ok in alu rims too, but this will compromise braking on alu rims.NOTE: Not all carbon brake pads work - Campy carbon pads eat alu rims. I used coolstop pads (also branded as Zipp pads), and like TNT said, Swisstop also work. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/109447-carbon-wheels-with-normal-brake-pads/#findComment-1521127 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minion Posted October 30, 2011 Share That is why you must use Swisstop yellow and Swisstop yellow brake pads only Zac! No need to change the brake pads when you change your wheels They are specifically designed to handle both braking surfaces!You also use Zipp carbon-carbon pads. You save the hassle of swapping pads, though you should still check and clean them when going from alu to carbon. Here's what Zipp says:Please note: Any time a pad is being switched between aluminum and carbon braking surfaces it is imperative to check the pad and remove (by filing, picking, or sanding) any aluminum shavings left in the pad. I will admit to not being all that diligent about checking my pads before swapping and I've been lucky so far. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/109447-carbon-wheels-with-normal-brake-pads/#findComment-1521186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotSoBigBen Posted October 30, 2011 Share Besides the one silly comment which I'll ignore thanks a stack for the advice everyone Went and got the correct pads, because it's on my race bike I don't intend changing the wheels generally so they can stay Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/109447-carbon-wheels-with-normal-brake-pads/#findComment-1521228 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Break Posted October 30, 2011 Share Buy yourself a set of the yellow Swiss Stop brake pads and you only have to worry when they wear out totally. You can use them with any braking surface and they don't pick up bits of alu that will damage your carbon rims. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/109447-carbon-wheels-with-normal-brake-pads/#findComment-1521241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotSoBigBen Posted October 30, 2011 Share The_Break that would be the ideal situation I guess. Going to my LBS tomorrow for some stuff will check if they have those .... Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/109447-carbon-wheels-with-normal-brake-pads/#findComment-1521246 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tankman Posted October 30, 2011 Share Is there an eco here? That is why you must use Swisstop yellow and Swisstop yellow brake pads only Zac! No need to change the brake pads when you change your wheels They are specifically designed to handle both braking surfaces! Buy yourself a set of the yellow Swiss Stop brake pads and you only have to worry when they wear out totally. You can use them with any braking surface and they don't pick up bits of alu that will damage your carbon rims. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/109447-carbon-wheels-with-normal-brake-pads/#findComment-1521262 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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