kosmonooit Posted March 18, 2012 Posted March 18, 2012 Fabian did manage to open some gaps on the descent but not enough to get away http://cdn4.media.cyclingnews.futurecdn.net//2012/03/17/1/pic266411149_600.jpg
kosmonooit Posted March 18, 2012 Posted March 18, 2012 He just couldn't drop 'em - nor for lack of trying! http://cdn2.media.cyclingnews.futurecdn.net//2012/03/17/2/bettiniphoto_0103402_1_full_600.jpg
kosmonooit Posted March 18, 2012 Posted March 18, 2012 http://cdn4.media.cyclingnews.futurecdn.net//2012/03/17/2/bettiniphoto_0103405_1_full_600.jpg
nochain Posted March 19, 2012 Posted March 19, 2012 Never been at the pointy end of a race, have you? TNT, I have spent enough time racing with the pros over the years and spend enough time riding with some good teams and with some very good riders to at least know this. Going into those last 3km,Gerrans or he’s team manager had to do the following. 1.Look at the riders with him at that stage in the break and decide what he’s options are for a win….for example should he launch early or does he believe he is the fastest and backs himself to take it close to the line. From what we have seen and most people on this topic rate him as n sprinter so surely the answer to that one would, back yourself you are the fastest. 2. He had to look at what is happening behind, what is the team situation and what is happening with the chase. The answer to that was he had a bunch of sprinters about a 150m right behind him. Less than 10 seconds at that stage. So now he makes a decision. I take a couple of pulls because I believe I am the fastest in this group and I think the chase is to close and I want to make 100% sure I win this thing or I just sit there and hope to hell Cancellara does not run out of legs and I take the win. In the end he did the right thing, he gambled and made it by 2 seconds and that yes is racing…sorry for Cancellara. Just not the way I would like to see guys race….that’s simple. My view point on tactics.
kosmonooit Posted March 19, 2012 Posted March 19, 2012 (edited) The Greenedge team tactic was for Simon to go with the late break (ref: that "Back stage pass" vid above) - guess it was his judgement to assess which was the critical break. And he chose right. And stuck with it. Fabian says that although Simon did some pulls, he took over because the pack was bearing down on them. And he spoke to Nabali to do some work but he couldn't because Sagan was in the bunch breathing down on them. Read about that here So Simon Gerrans & Green Edge got it all right, and a well deserved win. Edited March 19, 2012 by kosmonooit
Tankman Posted March 19, 2012 Posted March 19, 2012 In the end he did the right thing, he gambled and made it by 2 seconds and that yes is racing…sorry for Cancellara. Congratulations, it took you 3 days to get to this point! Just not the way I would like to see guys race….that’s simple. My view point on tactics. Jy is so deurmekaar soos kat kotzJust above you say Gerrans did the right thing but he should have done it differently? Gerrans did not need to do anything differently ... HE WON!
Tankman Posted March 19, 2012 Posted March 19, 2012 Fabian says that although Simon did some pulls, he took over because the pack was bearing down on them. Just like you and I know it is not in the nature of Spartacus to just sit up and give up in those dying seconds, so does Gerrans and he used it to his advantage. Know your enemies
'Dale Posted March 19, 2012 Posted March 19, 2012 Reminds me of the Sanchez & Voight during Paris-Nice recently. They broke away. Dropped a few others during the final climb. With the pack of wolves bearing on them, they slowed down trying to claim the wheel of the other. Jens, like Cancellara, pushed for the line. Sanchez grabbed his rear wheel, gained speed and won by half a rim. Fair Play. That's racing!
SwissVan Posted March 19, 2012 Posted March 19, 2012 Reminds me of the Sanchez & Voight during Paris-Nice recently. They broke away. Dropped a few others during the final climb. With the pack of wolves bearing on them, they slowed down trying to claim the wheel of the other. Jens, like Cancellara, pushed for the line. Sanchez grabbed his rear wheel, gained speed and won by half a rim. Fair Play. That's racing! Quite right, and to be honest thats one of the things that makes RR nice to watch ( the tactics, drama ect...) BUT imo it sucks from a riders point of view, allthough I'm sure the "victims" like Jens, Fabian etc... accept it as part of the game. But then some Forum Manager TIT has to throw in his usual smart ass personal comments
FrankTank Posted March 19, 2012 Posted March 19, 2012 Quote by Cancellara: "I had lactic acid coming out of my ears".Source - http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/cancellara-pipped-at-milan-san-remo Almost as classic as the "Shut up legs" comment from Jens Voigt:http://bicycling.com/blogs/hardlyserious/2011/06/28/talking-back/
Cav' Posted March 19, 2012 Posted March 19, 2012 This thread got a lot more interesting since I last check it
'Dale Posted March 20, 2012 Posted March 20, 2012 Interesting spin by this reporter on cyclingnews.com: Asking whether Cancellara's racing was a glorious failure or pure arrogance in trying to ride quality riders off his wheel in the final kms?
SwissVan Posted March 20, 2012 Posted March 20, 2012 Interesting spin by this reporter on cyclingnews.com: Asking whether Cancellara's racing was a glorious failure or pure arrogance in trying to ride quality riders off his wheel in the final kms? Nah FC was merely tuning his engine for the some of the other up coming classics, next time......
'Dale Posted March 20, 2012 Posted March 20, 2012 Nah FC was merely tuning his engine for the some of the other up coming classics, next time...... Check out that article, swissvan.Must still finish it. "10 conclusions from Milan-San Remo"cyclingnews.com
'Dale Posted March 20, 2012 Posted March 20, 2012 Sh*t!I wonder what Spartacus's power meter would read in those breakaway efforts. Christie 1
T-Bob Posted March 20, 2012 Posted March 20, 2012 This quote from the Sydney Morning Herald from Evans should raise a few blood pressures... "Evans believes Gerrans's most crucial move after getting in to the winning break with 7.2km of the 298km race to go with Swiss runner-up Fabian Cancellara (RadioShack-Nissan) and third-placed Italian Vincenzo Nibali (Liquigas) was his brief 300m turn at the front with 1.7km to go when their race lead had fallen to 7 seconds.''That one little turn … if he didn't do that, they might have got swamped,'' Evans said. So you see, FC should be thanking Gerro for helping him get second place and be more grateful.
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