SRAM Type 2 rear Mech becomes official

[Capricorn]

http://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/stories/2012/03/15/full_SRAM_TYPE_2_X0_SILVER.jpg?1331817589

 

SPECS

X0 TYPE 2 Rear Derailleur

• Exact Actuation for precise and dependable 10-speed performance

• Focused chassis design for all conditions and usage

• 235g (medium cage) clutch adds 30 grams to a standard RD

• 36-tooth cassette capable

• 3 cage lengths available: short for DH, medium for 2X10 and long for 3X10

• 3 graphic colors available: Silver, Black, Red X9 TYPE 2 Rear Derailleur

• Exact Actuation for precise and dependable 10-speed performance

• Focused chassis design for all conditions and usage

• 250g (medium cage) clutch adds 30 grams to a standard RD

• 36-tooth cassette capable

• 3 cage lengths available: short for DH, medium for 2X10 and long for 3X10

 

• 2 graphic colors available:

Grey, white July production, August retail availability

 

Rear Derailleur X0 Type 2 10-speed Long Cage Red $260

Rear Derailleur X0 Type 2 10-speed Medium Cage Red $260

Rear Derailleur X0 Type 2 10-speed Short Cage Red $260

Rear Derailleur X9 Type 2 10-speed Long Cage Carbon Grey $116

Rear Derailleur X9 Type 2 10-speed Medium Cage Carbon Grey $116

Rear Derailleur X9 Type 2 10-speed Short Cage Carbon Grey $116

 

honestly, this 10-spd crap for DH...

 

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[Palaeodom]

tell us what it does...

[Tiny K]

Looks cool!

[covie]

Oh yay another derailure like there has been any actual advances in the last 4 years in shifting, besides looks.

[Slowbee]

for those of us that just get on and ride, what is a roller bearing clutch ?

[covie]

for those of us that just get on and ride, what is a roller bearing clutch ?

for those of us that just get on and ride, what is a roller bearing clutch ?

 

Its another scam to charge you more for a heavier derailure becuase there is no way to improve shifting anymore. same pricnicple as having xo shifters with ballbearings that make no difference in shifting than an normal x5 shifter.

[kosmonooit]

The clutch is for the lock of the cage i.t.o. radial movement, along the axis of the chain?

 

I see they also moved away from the pivot pins in the parallelogram having circlips of the X0 9 speed variety so that it could be taken apart completely.

[Capricorn]

for those of us that just get on and ride, what is a roller bearing clutch ?

 

it's SRAMs version/answer to Shimano Shadow+ tech. The clutch mechanism basically uses friction to slow forward movement of the mech thus preventing excessive chain slap, and in turn, limits or completely prevents chains from derailling. i for one for like the concept in that it will make the bike quite a bit quieter not hearing the chain whip around like crazy. Too much noise creates the impression something is wrong, and the very next thing that happens is the brake lever gets massaged

 

Also, there is a little button to the bottom right of that fat black knuckle, supposed to make wheel swopping easier by lockign the mech in teh forward position/chain at it's slackest. Once done changing the wheel, unlock and carry on.

 

http://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/stories/2012/03/15/full_Screen_shot_2012_03_15_at_6.17.31_AM.jpg?1331817531

Edited March 15, 2012 by Capricorn

[MintSauce]

for those of us that just get on and ride, what is a roller bearing clutch ?

 

Thanks Covie.

 

And now, here's the non-ignorant answer to the same question: Actually, the clutch does serve a specific purpose. When you descend very bumpy, rocky terrain, it causes the weight of the chain to tug on the rear deraillleur, causing the chain to slap around more. This creates not only a lot of noise, but also greatly increases the chance of the chain dropping off the front chainring. The clutch basically stabilizes the derailleur cage which results in less chain slapping and increased performance. This improvement is aimed at riders that ride very rough terrain and/or ride very aggressively. It's for this reason that you can choose to buy a derailleur with or without the clutch(at least that's the case with Shimano, I'm guessing Sram will do the same).

[covie]

Thanks Covie.

 

And now, here's the non-ignorant answer to the same question: Actually, the clutch does serve a specific purpose. When you descend very bumpy, rocky terrain, it causes the weight of the chain to tug on the rear deraillleur, causing the chain to slap around more. This creates not only a lot of noise, but also greatly increases the chance of the chain dropping off the front chainring. The clutch basically stabilizes the derailleur cage which results in less chain slapping and increased performance. This improvement is aimed at riders that ride very rough terrain and/or ride very aggressively. It's for this reason that you can choose to buy a derailleur with or without the clutch(at least that's the case with Shimano, I'm guessing Sram will do the same).

 

so as you and and capri said its pretty much useless makes your bike a little quiter and it will cost you double the price of the current version, nothing ignorant about it. its just a gimick to do more sales. dont get me wrong i run full SRAM and i love the stuff, but this has absolutly no advantage over previous modes. The slapping does not affect performance at all and there is no evidence to support or deny the fact.

[Mada3400]

from what i read, i think the type 2 will be the same price as the normal one

[Capricorn]

from what i read, i think the type 2 will be the same price as the normal one

 

i thought i read that as well. So really, it's a no-brainer to at least try it. But, i dont like it that they've used this as an opportunity to phase out their 9-speed offerings and push that 10sp stuff into all markets. It's dumb IMO

[covie]

i thought i read that as well. So really, it's a no-brainer to at least try it. But, i dont like it that they've used this as an opportunity to phase out their 9-speed offerings and push that 10sp stuff into all markets. It's dumb IMO

 

If mine breaks then sure ill buy one, but i wont go out and get one just because of the clutch.

[Capricorn]

Sorry Covie: didnt mean to sound as if I was pushing anyone to go out and buy another rear mech. that said, i always keep a spare mech. just the nature of the sport where the score is normally Rock 1 - Rear mech 0

[covie]

Sorry Covie: didnt mean to sound as if I was pushing anyone to go out and buy another rear mech. that said, i always keep a spare mech. just the nature of the sport where the score is normally Rock 1 - Rear mech 0

 

No need to appoligze Capri if they keep it the same price im fairly happy, I think as far as gearing go the pinnacle has pretty much been reached, the next level will be electric gearing if thats your thing.

 

SRAM actually did tests a while back on their pre production ranges which is unmarked and most of the testers couldnt notice a difference between their x7 and XO range. So your once again paying for the weight loss and thats about it.

[Capricorn]

you completely right on both accounts:

I've used X.7, X.9 and X.0 and there aint much difference in the actually shifting. But when it comes to reliability, the X.7 was flimsy to say the least. X.9 is the ultimate work horse. that thing just keeps trucking no matter the pounding. X.0 is just a refined X.9: lighter is the word. But it works just as well, and is as robust. Not to mention the colors: we all know just how valuable color schemes are: so worth the price premium.

 

As for next-gen gearing; electronic might be an option, but internal gearing i think is the way to go. The Zerode has sparked that debate agian, and i'm pretty sure the state of materials and engineering art can surely result in a better gearbox. simply the rear wheel assembly, centralise and lower the mass while increasing it's reliability untold times.