Hairy Posted February 17, 2015 Posted February 17, 2015 Pogo sticks, no rebound adjustment or sag just to start with. There have been not so glamorous reviews of it What are your intentions for the fork? Gravel and light trail use?
janneman72 Posted February 17, 2015 Posted February 17, 2015 I have ridden One last week from the local distributer, they are actually really awesome and performed much better than expected. They should retail between R8-10k here in SA. Like Technix said, for SA use they are perfect and if you think about it cost and weight much less than a SID or Lefty etc and also doesn't require services, seals etc. There are also 2 options available depending on the stiffness you want. I was pleasantly surprised.
devil2 Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 Hairy Who pissed you off my friend I will answer your questions tonight because I can see its going to take long Your opinion may be different from mine but you ARE not going to call me a lier All facts that I stated is true ie who the other testers was,most of what I wrote were also their findings I have no intention to advertize this for personal benifit or finantial benifit. Have you tested these forks yourself? I dont think so Maybe the guys selling these made you mad and now you want to get back at them?
Hairy Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 If I may I would like to raise my opinion on this new incredible technology called Lauf I am an avid mountain biker and road cycle enthusiast.And by avid I only mean most of the time too unfit but very interested in the technical aspects and especially when it comes to the engineering and new ideas. Now without too much about my own abilities I would like to explain in short that I was aprouched by coleagues to try this out,and that they found this to have no equal in suspention forks.Now these two are well renowned in their fields of bicycle technology and technical expertise. One of which is the tecnical director for no less than three pro teams in SA as well as one in Europe It was then fitted on my mountain bike about 4 weeks ago as a test or loan. My findings was that I have had nothing better on a mountain bike and also agree with them that there is currently no equal after testing it on various South African terain. I have subsiquintly done further research on other peoples findings on the net and found one spesific video by bike radar mentioning his concernes with its lateral stiffness. Thuth be told,this is in my opinion an even greater problem on normal suspention forks.Wich was not compared by them. No other mentionable negatives could be found. How I see this1 forward propeltion after a corner much much quicker2 stiff and responsive3 very very predictable even after a short time getting used to the change4 superior handeling in very rough climbs again because of very low weight and easier forward propeltion5 superior handeling in single track,very predictable and fantastic acceleration out of slow and slower corners6 found that the 60 mm travel version are much more comfortable on hands,wrists and body after extensive riding than my normal suspention fork ( 80mm travel)which by the way is the top of the line of one of the famous brands.this feels to me much more like a 100 mm travel fork that was perfectly set up for my rider weight,skills and riding style.7 at 900 g it is candy for the weight weenies but the low weight also does wonders for unparreled explosive exeleration.8 Very very strong, has anybody seen the videoclip where they hang a Landrover from it attached to a crane?9 No more R 550 to R 1800 service fees twice a year for the medium to higher milage riders.Waiting up to two weeks for the fork to come back from Cape province or whereever else in Willows Pretoria east( if you are in the Cape)10 Cheeper than a semi decent Fox or Rochshock,not to mention Magura or DT Swiss with all their problems.11 Cheepest way to knock 500 to 1000 g off your bike depending on your current Fork.Rand per gram nothing can be changed with such a significant effect on the bike weight not to mention the other added benifits you get.Weight is not everything.12 a five year warrantee. Don't be fooled like me into thinking that the low travel option would be hard on your body,it seems to be the opposite.The other issue of not being ajustable came to mind.I found it to be perfect for me from the word go.And lets be honest and realistic,how many of us really know how to ajust your forks to your weight,riding style and different terain? Every day we ride somewhere different.So you should actually do suspention settings more often than one would think.This seems to ajust to different terain much more natural than anything I have experienced before. Cutting edge technology. I might even want to predict that this and simular products in the future might replace all current fork technology because it makes so much more sence.Much like 29" did with other wheel sizes,because it made so much more sence. Contrary to popular beleive,the retail price is set world wide at $ 990 and not around R 8000 as someone sugested on this thread.I have reason to believe that the first 20 or so to South African shores might sell at around R 9000 as a promotional special.Which in my book is a bargain all considerred. Also a 110 mm travel version might be launched soon according to reliable or maybe unreliable sources.Only time will tell. If you are not in the market for a new fork,or not interested to buy something different or might not have the money now for this,I would suggest you don't take a Lauf fork for a test ride,because you might sell your sister to buy one. But if possible test it.And I strongly believe you would be pleasantly supprized by your findingsPardon my poor manners, but this post sounds very much like an advertorial for the product by someone directly involved or rather to gain directly from the sale of these forks. You made a couple of sweeping statements that I struggle with. Now without too much about my own abilities I would like to explain in short that I was aprouched by coleagues to try this out,and that they found this to have no equal in suspention forks.Now these two are well renowned in their fields of bicycle technology and technical expertise. REALLY KEEN TO KNOW WHO THE EXPERTS / RENOWNED RIDERS ARE? One of which is the tecnical director for no less than three pro teams in SA as well as one in Europe IF HE IS THE TECHNICAL DIRECTOR AND THE PRODUCT IS SO GREAT HE WOULD NOT ONLY BE RIDING IT ON HIS PERSONAL BIKE, BUT THE TEAM WOULD ALSO BE RIDING ON THEM. PLEASE ADVISE ON TEAMS IN SA RIDING THIS FORK? It was then fitted on my mountain bike about 4 weeks ago as a test or loan. My findings was that I have had nothing better on a mountain bike and also agree with them that there is currently no equal after testing it on various South African terain. WHAT TYPE OF TERRAIN WERE YOU RIDING, ANYTHING TECHNICAL, DID YOU TAKE THE FORK TO CT OR KZN TRAILS? I have subsiquintly done further research on other peoples findings on the net and found one spesific video by bike radar mentioning his concernes with its lateral stiffness. Thuth be told,this is in my opinion an even greater problem on normal suspention forks.Wich was not compared by them. YOUR OPINION, BUT IN MY OPINION I THINK YOU MIGHT BE OFF THE MARK HERE, CONCLUSIVE INDEPENDENT TEST WOULD HAVE TO BE CONDUCTED TO VOID ALL READERS PERSONAL OPINIONS. No other mentionable negatives could be found. How I see this1 forward propeltion after a corner much much quicker PLEASE CLARIFY, DOES IT FEEL QUICKER BECAUSE THE FRONT END LIGHTER OR IS IT QUICKER. DOES THIS INCLUDE FOR RUTTED OR ROUGHER CORNERS OR IS IT ONLY FLAT CORNERS BEING REFERRED TO.2 stiff and responsive 3 very very predictable even after a short time getting used to the change4 superior handeling in very rough climbs again because of very low weight and easier forward propeltion COMPARED TO WHAT OTHER FORKS HAVE YOU RIDDEN?5 superior handeling in single track,very predictable and fantastic acceleration out of slow and slower corners COMPARED TO WHAT OTHER FORKS HAVE YOU RIDDEN? WHAT TYPE OF ST TRAILS ..ARE WE TALKING SMOOTH AND MANICURED ST OR MORE NATURAL ST, YOU KNOW, MOUNTAIN BIKING ST?6 found that the 60 mm travel version are much more comfortable on hands,wrists and body after extensive riding than my normal suspention fork ( 80mm travel)which by the way is the top of the line of one of the famous brands.this feels to me much more like a 100 mm travel fork that was perfectly set up for my rider weight,skills and riding style. YOU REALLY NEED TO CLARIFY THE TOP OF THE RANGE FORK YOU ARE USING.7 at 900 g it is candy for the weight weenies but the low weight also does wonders for unparreled explosive exeleration. WITHOUT A PLATFORM, OR RATHER SLOW SPEED COMPRESSION ADJUSTMENT, ONE WOULD THINK A PROPERLY SET UP FORK WOULD ACCELERATE BETTER WHEN THE RIDER IS GUNNING IT OUT OF THE SADDLE VS A FORK WHICH DOES NOT HAVE THE SS COMPRESSION.8 Very very strong, has anybody seen the videoclip where they hang a Landrover from it attached to a crane?9 No more R 550 to R 1800 service fees twice a year for the medium to higher milage riders. I JUST PAID R350 FOR A BASIC FOX FORK SERVICE, R750 WOULD BE A FULL SERVICE WITH NEW SEALS. THE ABOVE CAN BE DONE AT LEASE FOUR OF THE LBS'S NEAR ME WITH TRAINED STAFF ... AND THEN THERE IS ALWAYS ONMICO THAT THE FORK CAN GO TO ASWELL.Waiting up to two weeks for the fork to come back from Cape province or whereever else in Willows Pretoria east( if you are in the Cape) WORST FOR ME WAS WHEN I HAD A SCOTT PROPRIETY REAR SHOCK, IT HAS TO GO TO PE AND THEN STILL BE SENT BACK. WAIT WAS JUST UNDER A WEEK.10 Cheeper than a semi decent Fox or Rochshock,not to mention Magura or DT Swiss with all their problems. CANT COMMENT TILL I HAVE SEEN THE ACTUAL RRP IN A LBS. 11 Cheepest way to knock 500 to 1000 g off your bike depending on your current Fork.Rand per gram nothing can be changed with such a significant effect on the bike weight not to mention the other added benifits you get.Weight is not everything. REAL WEIGHT WEENIES RIDE RIGID CARBON FORKS 12 a five year warrantee. THAT IS DECENT Don't be fooled like me into thinking that the low travel option would be hard on your body,it seems to be the opposite. TYPE OF RIDING DONE?The other issue of not being ajustable came to mind. YOUR EXPERIENCE IN FORK SET UP?I found it to be perfect for me from the word go.And lets be honest and realistic,how many of us really know how to ajust your forks to your weight,riding style and different terain? Every day we ride somewhere different.So you should actually do suspention settings more often than one would think. IF YOU SET YOUR FORK UP PROPERLY (AND I THINK THERE ARE MORE PEOPLE OUT THERE THAN YOU THINK WHO CAN SET UP THEIR FORKS PROPERLY) IT WOULD COVER A MULTITUDE OF TRAIL CONDITIONS WELL. THE THING IS WITH A ''REGULAR FORK'' IS THAT YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO ADJUST THE FORK TO YOUR WEIGHT AND RIDING STYLE, EVEN VERY SIMPLE THINGS LIKE GETTING YOUR SAG AND REBOUND SET PROPERLY IS VERY SIMPLE AND MAKES A HUGE DIFFERENCE TO YOUR RIDING EXPERIENCE. MORE ADVANCED SET UP WITH LOW AND HIGH SPEED COMPRESSION'S ARE USUALLY ON THE HIGH END FORKS, AND RIDERS ON HIGHER END FORKS HAVE USUALLY BEEN RIDING FOR A WHILE AND SHOULD UNDERSTAND HOW TO SET A FORK UP PROPERLY FOR HOW AND WHERE THEY RIDE......IF THEY ARE JUST NEW RIDERS BUYING INTO THE SPORT AT THE HIGH END PRICE AND TECH BRACKET WITH NO KNOWLEDGE OF HOW THEIR EQUIPMENT WORKS, THEN THEY JUST HAVE TO LEARN......WORLD CAN'T ALWAYS BE DEVELOPED AROUND THE LOWEST DENOMINATOR.This seems to ajust to different terain much more natural than anything I have experienced before. Cutting edge technology. PENSKE IS CUTTING EDGE TECHNOLOGY, IN MY OPINION. I might even want to predict that this and simular products in the future might replace all current fork technology because it makes so much more sence. WHY DOES IT MAKE MORE SENSE. Much like 29" did with other wheel sizes,because it made so much more sence. HIGHLY DEBATABLE STATEMENT THAT! Contrary to popular beleive,the retail price is set world wide at $ 990 and not around R 8000 as someone sugested on this thread.I have reason to believe that the first 20 or so to South African shores might sell at around R 9000 as a promotional special. AND RRP AFTER THAT? JUST SPOTTED NEW PIKE FORKS FOR 9.5k RRP HERE ON THE HUB THE PAST WEEK...AND THAT IS A HIGH END FORK.Which in my book is a bargain all considerred. Also a 110 mm travel version might be launched soon according to reliable or maybe unreliable sources.Only time will tell. If you are not in the market for a new fork,or not interested to buy something different or might not have the money now for this,I would suggest you don't take a Lauf fork for a test ride,because you might sell your sister to buy one. But if possible test it.And I strongly believe you would be pleasantly supprized by your findings
Wyatt Earp Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 I might even want to predict that this and simular products in the future might replace all current fork technology because it makes so much more sence. Hairy, yes advertorial to the core.How about NO . This and SIMILAR products in the future will not replace all current fork technology just because it happens to make SENSE .
Marius Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 If ridden a few forks incl a Fox, Rock Shox and Manitou and now the Brain being the best one for me so far, I'm keen to try the Lauf to see how it compares, Ill try anything once and form my own option rather than listing the you guys nerd debt the crap out of it.
Wyatt Earp Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 If ridden a few forks incl a Fox, Rock Shox and Manitou and now the Brain being the best one for me so far, I'm keen to try the Lauf to see how it compares, Ill try anything once and form my own option rather than listing the you guys nerd debt the crap out of it. The brain is no different to a normal Rock Shox except for their brain cartridge within the fork.Their own fork was a monumental flop.This fork in question here has been around a little bit.I saw them at Eurobike three years back, they actually look damn good in the flesh.The weight is just incredible, but what they offer will never substitute a fork that uses proper damping .
Hairy Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 The brain is no different to a normal Rock Shox except for their brain cartridge within the fork.Their own fork was a monumental flop.This fork in question here has been around a little bit.I saw them at Eurobike three years back, they actually look damn good in the flesh.The weight is just incredible, but what they offer will never substitute a fork that uses proper damping .and that all is the crux of the matter!
deanbean Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 The brain is no different to a normal Rock Shox except for their brain cartridge within the fork.Their own fork was a monumental flop.This fork in question here has been around a little bit.I saw them at Eurobike three years back, they actually look damn good in the flesh.The weight is just incredible, but what they offer will never substitute a fork that uses proper damping .Damping is the thing no? I guess it's okay on a gravel grinder, but not on a proper mountain bike, and you can always HTFU and use a rigid fork too. If the fork is so fantastic, why are the XCO pro's not using it, they are all weight weenies.
Wyatt Earp Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 Damping is the thing no? I guess it's okay on a gravel grinder, but not on a proper mountain bike, and you can always HTFU and use a rigid fork too. If the fork is so fantastic, why are the XCO pro's not using it, they are all weight weenies.We are discussing the merits of suspension forks, not rigid forks .
devil2 Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 If ridden a few forks incl a Fox, Rock Shox and Manitou and now the Brain being the best one for me so far, I'm keen to try the Lauf to see how it compares, Ill try anything once and form my own option rather than listing the you guys nerd debt the crap out of it. Such a good and fair comment Marius
gummibear Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 They a hit with weightweenies but never see them out on the trails.
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