niterider Posted June 26, 2014 Posted June 26, 2014 Coming from a Silverback 26er with 100mm travel, I'm sure the Stumpy will have enough travel for me. I want more efficient climbing though. I think the Stumpjumper will probably climb slightly better than the Trance 2, but the Trance will be more fun in the other direction... Very conflicted My experience is the opposite. Giant Maestro has more "natural" platform. Stumpy FSR is very active. On the Stumpy I will always flick it into climb mode on the uphills. On the Giant it climbs pretty well in trail mode, so you can just leave it there. Which is a good thing, because reaching that switch is much harder on the Giant.
DJR Posted June 26, 2014 Posted June 26, 2014 Kinda hoping that my 26'r trance gets 'redistributed' so the insurance company has to get me a nice new 27.5... I solved that problem in-house. My eldest son is now just tall enough to ride my old large Trance - so it became his hand-me-down and I got the new 650B. Fair arrangement, I think, for all the lip teenagers give their fathers.
DJR Posted June 26, 2014 Posted June 26, 2014 Coming from a Silverback 26er with 100mm travel, I'm sure the Stumpy will have enough travel for me. I want more efficient climbing though. I think the Stumpjumper will probably climb slightly better than the Trance 2, but the Trance will be more fun in the other direction... Very conflicted Nope, I think the Trance climbs eceptionally well. Don't want to knock other brands, but for trail bike with 130mm of seriously good travel, it is hard to beat on the ups as well as the downs.
Hairy Posted June 26, 2014 Posted June 26, 2014 Nope, I think the Trance climbs eceptionally well. Don't want to knock other brands, but for trail bike with 130mm of seriously good travel, it is hard to beat on the ups as well as the downs.PSSSTTT ... don't you have 140mm travel?
nolipoli Posted June 26, 2014 Author Posted June 26, 2014 So I have some of these arriving in a month or so... 50mm OD2 (with additional shim to run standard)
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted June 26, 2014 Posted June 26, 2014 PSSSTTT ... don't you have 140mm travel?He does. But excuse him, he's a bit long in the tooth and plays with happy gas all day long
DJR Posted June 27, 2014 Posted June 27, 2014 He does. But excuse him, he's a bit long in the tooth and plays with happy gas all day long .........also, slow with numbers!
Flowta Posted June 27, 2014 Posted June 27, 2014 So I have some of these arriving in a month or so... 50mm OD2 (with additional shim to run standard) Looks interesting, any other angles? From where and how much?
nolipoli Posted June 27, 2014 Author Posted June 27, 2014 Looks interesting, any other angles? From where and how much? I am having them custom manufactured, they will probably end up at about R900.
Hairy Posted June 27, 2014 Posted June 27, 2014 http://flowmountainbike.com/tests/long-term-test-giant-trance-advanced-sx/
goatman Posted June 27, 2014 Posted June 27, 2014 Is the Giant Trance SX 27.5 available in South Africa?
Flowta Posted June 27, 2014 Posted June 27, 2014 Is the Giant Trance SX 27.5 available in South Africa? I'm sure I saw one at the last Enduro at Delvera FYI: the Trance and the Trance SX sure the same frame, but the SX has a 160mm fork and the Float X rear shock
DJR Posted June 28, 2014 Posted June 28, 2014 http://flowmountainb...ce-advanced-sx/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O95dOpT9T-c It's amazing how much the trails and the surroundings look like our Western Cape mountans - perhaps why Saffas seem so plentiful in Oz? Looks like a real monster of a bike, perhaps what I would buy instead of my regular alu Trance, if money was no object, (which it always is).
Flowta Posted July 1, 2014 Posted July 1, 2014 It's amazing how much the trails and the surroundings look like our Western Cape mountans - perhaps why Saffas seem so plentiful in Oz? Looks like a real monster of a bike, perhaps what I would buy instead of my regular alu Trance, if money was no object, (which it always is). The "standard" SX and the Alu Trance share the same frame just a 160mm fork and the Float X rear shock. Slap on a 160mm fork and you're halfway there
Big John Posted July 2, 2014 Posted July 2, 2014 Have been watching this thread with some interest for some time - just wanted to add my two cents and a few thoughts on the bike (first part mainly for people looking to buy, second part for those who have already bought): - First things first is the paint scheme - magic! Shows dirt instantly but I doubt anyone on here really sees that as an issue!- Frame sizing: Giant size chart had me on either a medium or a large, opted for the large as i have an abnormally long back and find it suits better. In was quite surprised at the wheelbase length (on paper) which is long! I must say though that it hasn't affected the ride negatively and could well be contributing to the way this thing goes downhill (more later).- Components: No real issues here. I am (not really by choice) a weekend warrior of note. For my needs the setup is more than adequate. I do appreciate the chain guide though, and haven't dropped a chain yet. all in all though I think the component mix is excellent value for money. - Suspension: I am now loving the suspension on this bike and although tricky to setup (perhaps just for me) it is now a frikken dream! Let me explain: I am a big boy (+-100kg) and initially struggled to set the sag correctly on the fork. I prefer a plusher setup and could not reach the plush limit of the sag without running ridiculously low pressure on the fork. So low that the pressure was not even enough to fully extend the fork with no load! when it was pumped up to extend the fork fully, I wasn't getting full travel (was getting +-130mm of travel). Having read a host of articles about not getting full travel on 2013 CTD forks, I began to suspect that there was too much float fluid in the air chamber (or that oil was making it's way up from the lowers, into the air chamber). When I removed the top cap for the air chamber i found that directly under the topcap there is a spacer (to reduce the volume of air in the chamber, and, in doing so, get the fork to ramp up towards the end of the travel, preventing harsh bottoming out). I took the bike back to the guys at action cycling who removed this spacer and added extra float fluid (but less than the spacer) effectively achieving a middle ground. After a full day of testing and setup in Tokai, I added and removed float fluid to feel how it felt on either end and settled in the slightly upward of middle. As a result, I find that it is now functioning very well. Handles big hits and drops and ramps up just the right amount to prevent a harsh bottoming out, but still uses full travel on a really big hit. In trail mode, it is perfect for most riding, only put it in climb for long fire road climbs. The shock was a breeze, normal setup (albeit with slightly less pressure than recommended), and slightly less rebound damping needed as a result. I find that when i stand up in trail mode on a climb and give it horns that it does move a bit - hardly surprising when you consider my size . Climb mode is basically like a heavy hardtail. One question i have is about the rear derailleur. I find it shifts much better without the clutch engaged. With it on, i find it shifts slower and so i have to reduce my pedaling effort for longer if I want to avoid a bit of gear grinding (mainly changing to bigger rings on cassette when climbing). Is this normal? Will it get better over time? All in all, I'm loving it.
Mawbs Posted July 7, 2014 Posted July 7, 2014 Just wondering if it would be worthwhile buying the MK 4 version at about 17k and then upgrading comps / suspension when funds allow ???
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