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I am looking for Pepperspray that delivers a stream in stead of mist. Who in Cape Town stock that?

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Blades & Triggers and Dad's Toys in Canal Walk. Also at a freestanding shoppe in Blue Route mall.

 

However you can find pepperspray commonly in shops like Cash Connections in Fish Hoek and similar places, you just have to look around.

 

But pay a visit to Blades and Dad's Toys, lots of fun and interesting things in there as well as some decent advice - very dependent on who you speak to though.

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Those shops only stock Bullet spray which have a 5% Oleoresin Capsicum content. Swat has 10%, but it's hard to find. I got one with a direct stream called Snotklap from Outdoor Geek in Brackenfell.

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be clear what you are doing and be fully prepared to use your gun or you might find yourself on its sharp end.

make sure you have witnesses that will corroborate that you used it to protect your life, otherwise you will be charged.

 

Even then ,one might find yourself at the forceful angry arm of the law, criminals are well protected.

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this might be an uninformed post but i think we should start mugging these bastards when we encounter them in our local riding spots take them for what they have so they too can feel what it feels like

I think when it comes down to it, these bandits are a lot tougher than most weekend warriors here. It takes a serious commitment to tackle somebody who has nothing to lose.

Nice sentiments, but hardly a reality...

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WARNING.

 

To those of you that think pepper spray is a magic silver bullet,

It is very far from being this, there is a substantial percentage of the population that is only minimally affected by pepper spray.

 

Pepper spray should only be used as a distracting agent, hopefully giving you time to deploy more effective means of personal defense, or to make "gat skoon".

 

Stay alert.

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Even then ,one might find yourself at the forceful angry arm of the law, criminals are well protected.

 

I HAVE TO AGREE HERE...

 

Here's a true story (first hand). My mae had to sit in police cells for 2hrs in Dec...because he "assaulted" a thief.

The **** crawled into his wife's bussiness on his stomach...past reception...to steal from handbag...wife saw him and jumped on him (she's really strong / aggro - i will not mess with her :eek: :eek: ) struggle ensue...would be thief get loose and runs down staris onto pavement...right into hubby who was on his way to collect wife...he persues till street intersection...and tackes guys down and rough him up a bit (i.e. citizens arrest). cope were called and thief lays charge against him...now, this is where I loose the plot...BECAUSE a charge doccet has been opened against Frank (my mate) ..the cops wqere unable to release him wadda wadda..etc. Not even his attourney could prevent him fro sitting in general cells for twqo hours...until they persuaded the thief to drop charges...

 

Moral of that story was....do you citizens arrest - do te roughing up...but do not call cops ...just release the guys...he will not go to cop station to lay charges...he simply did it (on the spot) beacuse cops were there to arest him!

 

bloody hell... :eek:

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I think when it comes down to it, these bandits are a lot tougher than most weekend warriors here. It takes a serious commitment to tackle somebody who has nothing to lose.

Nice sentiments, but hardly a reality...

 

In our area we have retaliated once or twice, seems to have worked, but you are correct, they have noting to lose and as a result of that they can't even think rationally .

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no one here is right or wrong and its your own preference to use/dont use a firearm or simply insure your bike and live another day. Each instance is very different from the next but what i will say, the conditions out there are not and will not be getting better, and you must be happy with the outcome of your decision.

Me - if the opportunity presents itself, i will fight back and if need be, shoot in self defence. Yes i do from time to time also carrry a legal firearm with me and i am prepared to use it. No im not Rambo, just another law abiding cyclist who enjoys his sport and likes to live in peace.

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In our area we have retaliated once or twice, seems to have worked, but you are correct, they have noting to lose and as a result of that they can't even think rationally .

Yup, retaliating when you have karate training gives you some idea of handling a situation (not always), but lets face it, not everyone has years of training in them and a good little street fighter will hurt you.

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I HAVE TO AGREE HERE...

 

Here's a true story (first hand). My mae had to sit in police cells for 2hrs in Dec...because he "assaulted" a thief.

The **** crawled into his wife's bussiness on his stomach...past reception...to steal from handbag...wife saw him and jumped on him (she's really strong / aggro - i will not mess with her :eek: :eek: ) struggle ensue...would be thief get loose and runs down staris onto pavement...right into hubby who was on his way to collect wife...he persues till street intersection...and tackes guys down and rough him up a bit (i.e. citizens arrest). cope were called and thief lays charge against him...now, this is where I loose the plot...BECAUSE a charge doccet has been opened against Frank (my mate) ..the cops wqere unable to release him wadda wadda..etc. Not even his attourney could prevent him fro sitting in general cells for twqo hours...until they persuaded the thief to drop charges...

 

Moral of that story was....do you citizens arrest - do te roughing up...but do not call cops ...just release the guys...he will not go to cop station to lay charges...he simply did it (on the spot) beacuse cops were there to arest him!

bloody hell... :eek:

 

I don't get this ..I have had an"assault" charge withdrawn after they were laid by the "victim "...I was assaulted ..I defended my self and I laid charges against the box of assault and "attempted murder" etc ....all the cops did was come to me ..to investigate the "victim's" claims ,charges ...they new it was bull**** ...all my "victim " received was an admission of guilt fine of R150 ...after he pleaded guilty to common assault ...but that was a five years ago ...maybe things have changed....

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Yup, retaliating when you have karate training gives you some idea of handling a situation (not always), but lets face it, not everyone has years of training in them and a good little street fighter will hurt you.

 

Thus me saying these guys don't operate rationally at times.

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I don't get this ..I have had an"assault" charge withdrawn after they were laid by the "victim "...I was assaulted ..I defended my self and I laid charges against the box of assault and "attempted murder" etc ....all the cops did was come to me ..to investigate the "victim's" claims ,charges ...they new it was bull**** ...all my "victim " received was an admission of guilt fine of R150 ...after he pleaded guilty to common assault ...but that was a five years ago ...maybe things have changed....

 

………and an honest victim.

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A gun is pretty useless in a hijacking situation. I rode past two guys, they parted for me to ride between them and simply grabbed me off my bike. I was dragged along a path into the trees where I was strip searched and everything of value was taken.

All the time the one with a silver gun was just out of arms reach while the other kept poking me with a knife.

I never stood a chance and it happened so fast there was no time to try reach for a gun.... they took my bike but at least they can't shoot people with a bike ... imagine if I'd had a gun?

Will you get your gun out every time you ride past someone?

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