Skubarra Posted February 11, 2015 Share 99er is an official seeding event - but only for the Argus the following year. So if you rode the 99er in 2014 then it could potentially count 100% for Argus 2015 (assuming it was your best index). 99er 2015 can be used for Argus 2015 but not as an official seeding event - so will never be 100% At least that is the way I understand it... Let me put it this way - what PPA tell us they will do (what you described) and what they do in practice is not always the same. Last year they used the 2014 99er as a 100% seeding event for the 2014 Argus. What will they do this year? Who knows, but it is much more relevant to use a 100% seeding that is one week old than one that is one year old Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadenceblur Posted February 11, 2015 Share exactly - so much can happen in a year. This should be obvious? But by the same token, your previous Argus performance also play a role, so I suppose they need to work with something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nazmo Posted February 11, 2015 Share 99er road ride is my only reference for my MTB seeding, granted I only did one MTB race 2 weeks ago (Porquipine) , but still, makes no sense. Now im seeded relatively well in MTB, undeservedly so as Im a newb on the rough stuff. PPA logic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pooyan Posted February 11, 2015 Share 99er road ride is my only reference for my MTB seeding, granted I only did one MTB race 2 weeks ago (Porquipine) , but still, makes no sense. Now im seeded relatively well in MTB, undeservedly so as Im a newb on the rough stuff. PPA logic There are only 7 seeded groups in MTB. So is D MTB seeding is similar to L road seeding. (estimate) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodger Posted February 11, 2015 Share Results show, Fastest B rider 2:55:00Fastest A rider 2:56:11 What was the time gaps 3mins? So what might of happened B caught A, but because of the efforts put in B couldn't climb as fast and the A made little bit of time back there... Just a speculation! Who knows... I was off by the climb [emoji26] Hey I was in group B and my time was 2:55:00 I worked very hard on the front with some other guys, some of which were late $ riders (red/white & blue/white craft jerseys). Another guy who was with me in Die Burger (Black/white jersey he pulls like a freight train) and also did a huge amount of work. We really made a huge effort to get across to A group. Shortly after that I think I saw you pull off to the right Meezo. I tried to stay near the front down the N7 but shortly after we turned onto Vissershok there was an accident and I got pushed far down the bunch. By the time we reached the vissershok climb I had alot of work to do to catch up to the front. I nearly made it back onto the leaders of A before the descent but once over the top I was isolated and they slipped ahead again. On the finish climb I clawed them back with all I had but didn't manage to catch the last 4 guys so I didn't quite overhaul them by 2 mins . Its the best road race I've done to date but I was frustrated with guys sitting in the pace line and messing things up. If you want a free ride fine but don't mess with the guys at the front who are busting their asses to get you a good time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meezo Posted February 11, 2015 Share Hey I was in group B and my time was 2:55:00 I worked very hard on the front with some other guys, some of which were late $ riders (red/white & blue/white craft jerseys). Another guy who was with me in Die Burger (Black/white jersey he pulls like a freight train) and also did a huge amount of work. We really made a huge effort to get across to A group. Shortly after that I think I saw you pull off to the right Meezo. I tried to stay near the front down the N7 but shortly after we turned onto Vissershok there was an accident and I got pushed far down the bunch. By the time we reached the vissershok climb I had alot of work to do to catch up to the front. I nearly made it back onto the leaders of A before the descent but once over the top I was isolated and they slipped ahead again. On the finish climb I clawed them back with all I had but didn't manage to catch the last 4 guys so I didn't quite overhaul them by 2 mins . Its the best road race I've done to date but I was frustrated with guys sitting in the pace line and messing things up. If you want a free ride fine but don't mess with the guys at the front who are busting their asses to get you a good time. submission was great fun! yes that happened alot! you weren't the guy who constantly ride off the front on the climbs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodger Posted February 11, 2015 Share submission was great fun! yes that happened alot! you weren't the guy who constantly ride off the front on the climbs? I went off the front once by accident but sat up when I realised, on my next turns I made sure that everyone was on before pulling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meezo Posted February 11, 2015 Share I went off the front once by accident but sat up when I realised, on my next turns I made sure that everyone was on before pulling. the other dude with baggies...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodger Posted February 11, 2015 Share the other dude with baggies...? Haha ye, MTB shoes, baggies and the orange/blue jersey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meezo Posted February 11, 2015 Share Haha ye, MTB shoes, baggies and the orange/blue jersey. yes i remember, i remember the once you went off the front also, that 1 oke wasn't impressed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodger Posted February 11, 2015 Share yes i remember, i remember the once you went off the front also, that 1 oke wasn't impressed! yup, STOP SURGING! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meezo Posted February 11, 2015 Share yup, STOP SURGING! nice riding, i think you me and another dude manage to break away as well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodger Posted February 11, 2015 Share Ye I thought that was a good idea to try and catch group A but it ended up making the rest of B hurry up and catch us so it served its purpose well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maniax Posted February 11, 2015 Share Its the best road race I've done to date but I was frustrated with guys sitting in the pace line and messing things up. If you want a free ride fine but don't mess with the guys at the front who are busting their asses to get you a good time. That is a problem throughout the groups. In Group P we were a handful that did all the work. The rest just sat in the group. It's part of cycling (and life as a whole) I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonian1984 Posted February 11, 2015 Share That is a problem throughout the groups. In Group P we were a handful that did all the work. The rest just sat in the group. It's part of cycling (and life as a whole) I guess.break away, ride a better time, get a better seeding ....then sat in and hang on for dear life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maniax Posted February 11, 2015 Share break away, ride a better time, get a better seeding ....then sat in and hang on for dear life Yep, working my way up slowely... Started in the double letters one year ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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