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I think 26ers are gonna become like steel framed bikes or some might say have already all this hype about the bigger wheels is gonna dissipate and the 26er is gonna be the most sought after wheel size again. Like steel frames you just can't get the same handling with the other wheel sizes that you have with 26. How I miss mine now.

.... I just slipped and bought another one ......

 

:ph34r:

 

.... there is just something about FUN .... and I'm the biggest children of them all!

I think 26ers are gonna become like steel framed bikes or some might say have already all this hype about the bigger wheels is gonna dissipate and the 26er is gonna be the most sought after wheel size again. Like steel frames you just can't get the same handling with the other wheel sizes that you have with 26. How I miss mine now.

.... I just slipped and bought another one ......  :ph34r: ....

oops me to...a blue one ????
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now i'm just itching for a reign comparison. and a fox 36 in there just to shake things up. this thread has me hooked. perhaps bibi could slap on a double barrel cane creek in the rear for some propper shredding... um i mean...review

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now i'm just itching for a reign comparison. and a fox 36 in there just to shake things up. this thread has me hooked. perhaps bibi could slap on a double barrel cane creek in the rear for some propper shredding... um i mean...review

 

Reign has a Fox 36 ...

 

With 6.7 on rear ....  :ph34r:

 

Pikey! Pikey! Pikey! ....

 

Maybe BiBi can sponsor us on the next mission ... if we promise that absolutely NO FUN will be had in the making of the next episode  ...  all business ....

 

Correction ... we will accept all FUNN products for meticulous testing over an extended period for long-term durability reviews ... :thumbup:

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Okay not that different then. Wheelbases would also suggest that the Pyga should be more stable.

 

Top tubes and seat tube angles?

id also like to know this. commis change in top tube length alone between the 5.5 and the AM was quite an agressive change.
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Okay not that different then. Wheelbases would also suggest that the Pyga should be more stable.

 

Top tubes and seat tube angles?

You honing in Caps ....

 

Both Large frames

 

Meta ST angle 73 deg, Pascoe 70 deg.

Meta ETT 620, Pascoe 627

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Reign has a Fox 36 ...

 

With 6.7 on rear ....  :ph34r:

 

Pikey! Pikey! Pikey! ....

 

Maybe BiBi can sponsor us on the next mission ... if we promise that absolutely NO FUN will be had in the making of the next episode  ...  all business ....

 

Correction ... we will accept all FUNN products for meticulous testing over an extended period for long-term durability reviews ... :thumbup:

I'm on like a scone to be the test crash biatch ....
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Reign has a Fox 36 ...

 

With 6.7 on rear .... [emoji14]h34r:

 

Pikey! Pikey! Pikey! ....

 

Maybe BiBi can sponsor us on the next mission ... if we promise that absolutely NO FUN will be had in the making of the next episode ... all business ....

 

Correction ... we will accept all FUNN products for meticulous testing over an extended period for long-term durability reviews ... [emoji106]

well he didnt say no? which means...
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Okay so to conclude the meta AM was just way better than the pascoe in this test review[emoji12] [emoji7] , and the meta SX is my next bike when the money tree in my yard starts shedding some $$$

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Hee hee! Meta has a longer reach. Bazinga

 

not necessarily. reach and top tube measurements are not the same. the reach on the large Pascoe is 455mm. What's the measured reach on the Commencal?

 

With modern trail bike geometries, top tube measurements are a throwback to road cycling metrics for the seated pedalling position, and thus less effective a measure of descending capability where the rider is mostly standing.

TT measurements on modern trail bike geometries are also skewed away from the road cycling basis as head angles are becoming slacker.

 

Reach, taken from the centerline of the BB to the centerline of the headtube is becoming the defining standard for bikes geared more for aggressive descending.

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not necessarily. reach and top tube measurements are not the same. the reach on the large Pascoe is 455mm. What's the measured reach on the Commencal?

 

With modern trail bike geometries, top tube measurements are a throwback to road cycling metrics for the seated pedalling position, and thus less effective a measure of descending capability where the rider is mostly standing.

TT measurements on modern trail bike geometries are also skewed away from the road cycling basis as head angles are becoming slacker.

 

Reach, taken from the centerline of the BB to the centerline of the headtube is becoming the defining standard for bikes geared more for aggressive descending.

I took the 2 seat tube angles - 70 on pyga and 73 on common and then applied them to the top tube seeing which would have longer reach. Common takes it.

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