Collision between cyclist and truck Boksburg

[DIPSLICK]

to me the scary part besides the obvious, the news article was on line for maybe 2 hours, sadly even here a community of cyclists this post is #16

I am not saying this because I started the thread I am saying it because us as cyclists have even become complacent and CYCLIST DOWN does not even stir much attention

And we say motorists don't care about cyclists,

[Tubehunter]

Post the news link please Dips

[DIPSLICK]

Post the news link please Dips

I'll look it was on news 24,,,

[Dicky DQ]

At the risk of irking thehub massif - I agree with that statement.

 

When on the bike I see the majority of riders skipping lights. From fun rider to pro it's the norm.

 

When in the car I've had to think for many a cyclist and avoid accidents due to their stupidity.

 

The same applies to bikers, motorists, truck drivers etc.

 

The difference is that in ant accident the cyclist always comes off second best - I would have thought this would force the cyclist to be uber careful but alas I'm wrong.

 

I rode past the place in Cape Town where a rider was killed by a truck. There was a perfectly good cycle path 4m to the left...why not use it? Sure we all like to do hectic intervals on the road because there are fewer interruptions than the cycle path but come on man - we are vulnerable and the consequences are hectic.

 

We need to look after ourselves instead of getting all "taxis break the law so we can too".

 

I've said it many times - better to eat humble pie and live then be right and dead.

Wrong time to say so but you are so true.

 

RIP dude.

[Cois]

to me the scary part besides the obvious, the news article was on line for maybe 2 hours, sadly even here a community of cyclists this post is #16

I am not saying this because I started the thread I am saying it because us as cyclists have even become complacent and CYCLIST DOWN does not even stir much attention

And we say motorists don't care about cyclists,

Saw the report on FB on a MTB group, 6 comments and on a cycling safety site, only 5 comments.

[EmptyB]

RIP......

[Cois]

Oh and on my commute I was called a dumb c**t for stopping at a red light, and this was a black commuter and not the first time I was called a c**t. and was called a d**s last week by a bloke on a road bike (Friday Afternoon about 17H30) white dude.  And just proceeded over the red light.

[DIPSLICK]

Can't find it anyone else, it was news 24

[Eldron]

Wrong time to say so but you are so true.

 

RIP dude.

I disagree - its easy to be a fair weather law breaker - its only when hearts strings are tugged and the stark reality of consequences are clear and present that epiphones occur and behavioural changes happen.

[shaper]

Sad to hear of anyone loosing a life irrespective of the circumstance.. RIP

[Tubehunter]

I disagree - its easy to be a fair weather law breaker - its only when hearts strings are tugged and the stark reality of consequences are clear and present that epiphones occur and behavioural changes happen.

 

Whilst I recognise the message you are trying to get across Eldron, I also don't see how having a cycle lane 4m to the left makes it OK for someone to be mowed down just cos they're on a bike and on the road.

 

And I'm all for the fact that each person here has a different idea about what is safe and how to behave responsibly. Please do not attempt to make out as if the accident you are referring to is because that person was riding in an inconsiderate manner!

[Eldron]

Whilst I recognise the message you are trying to get across Eldron, I also don't see how having a cycle lane 4m to the left makes it OK for someone to be mowed down just cos they're on a bike and on the road.

 

And I'm all for the fact that each person here has a different idea about what is safe and how to behave responsibly. Please do not attempt to make out as if the accident you are referring to is because that person was riding in an inconsiderate manner!

 

I think you're doing too much "reading into" and not enough reading.

 

There was a cycle lane 4m to the left - not only a demarcated cycle lane on the road but a dedicated cycle lane far off the road (there is a pedestrian pavement and a strip of beautification between the road and the cycle lane).

 

Logic dictates that if the cyclist was on the cycle lane the accident would not have happened. That is all. I'm not sure where you're getting the "it's ok for someone to be mowed down" or where I was secretly making out that the accident was the rider's fault from?

[Tubehunter]

I think you're doing too much "reading into" and not enough reading.

 

There was a cycle lane 4m to the left - not only a demarcated cycle lane on the road but a dedicated cycle lane far off the road (there is a pedestrian pavement and a strip of beautification between the road and the cycle lane).

 

Logic dictates that if the cyclist was on the cycle lane the accident would not have happened. That is all. I'm not sure where you're getting the "it's ok for someone to be mowed down" or where I was secretly making out that the accident was the rider's fault from?

 

Fair enough, which is why I recognise the message you are trying to convey! However you have sandwiched your take on the Cape Town account between these lines in your first post on this topic.

 

"When in the car I've had to think for many a cyclist and avoid accidents due to their stupidity."

 

and

 

 

"We need to look after ourselves instead of getting all "taxis break the law so we can too"."

 

In that context it reads as if the CT fallen rider was not using all his faculties in making the choice to ride off the cycle path. Something that EVERY single person who knew him will defend.

 

Here's a different take. Who amongst us reading this would attempt to do a proper sprint interval on this piece of cycle path as part of your training? (Ride at 60km\h plus closer to vehicle speed for a considerable stretch). Before the incident, who would've considered the road a safer option, than dodging people walking dogs and young kids with training wheels who are on the path at that time of the day?

 

Speaking for myself I implicitly know that however convenient it is to do sprint intervals along that stretch, especially when the South Easter is hooking and it's getting late and you're eager to get home, it's no longer something I would ever contemplate.

[pista]

RIP to the rider.

[Eldron]

Fair enough, which is why I recognise the message you are trying to convey! However you have sandwiched your take on the Cape Town account between these lines in your first post on this topic.

 

"When in the car I've had to think for many a cyclist and avoid accidents due to their stupidity."

 

and

 

 

"We need to look after ourselves instead of getting all "taxis break the law so we can too"."

 

In that context it reads as if the CT fallen rider was not using all his faculties in making the choice to ride off the cycle path. Something that EVERY single person who knew him will defend.

 

Here's a different take. Who amongst us reading this would attempt to do a proper sprint interval on this piece of cycle path as part of your training? (Ride at 60km\h plus closer to vehicle speed for a considerable stretch). Before the incident, who would've considered the road a safer option, than dodging people walking dogs and young kids with training wheels who are on the path at that time of the day?

 

Speaking for myself I implicitly know that however convenient it is to do sprint intervals along that stretch, especially when the South Easter is hooking and it's getting late and you're eager to get home, it's no longer something I would ever contemplate.

 

The downside of web forums! Communication is so shallow that we have to make loads of decisions for the writer...

 

Ok cool - so we're on the same page - I would not do intervals work on that road either. I would go one step further and say that I have never and will never ride on that stretch of road.

 

I can't comment on the specifics of the accident in this case - I was just using it as an example of riders having a safer option but not using it. You obviously know Adre and I'm sorry if my example questioned your friends ethics/riding style - I didn't intend it that way.