Myth Posted March 14, 2015 Author Posted March 14, 2015 Thanks for all the replies so far...I guess it sucks a bit that here in GP it's really difficult to get demo bikes of the models I like at the moment so I can get a feel of them... I am 1.84m tall.How tall are you?
popcorn_skollie Posted March 14, 2015 Posted March 14, 2015 Thanks for all the replies so far...I guess it sucks a bit that here in GP it's really difficult to get demo bikes of the models I like at the moment so I can get a feel of them... I am 1.84m tall.get a 29er
Johny Bravo Posted March 14, 2015 Posted March 14, 2015 Johny Bravo's is on to something. The first point at least.Point #2 was me trying to be sarcastic after waay to many beers, and obviously failing.
Johny Bravo Posted March 14, 2015 Posted March 14, 2015 Sigh. I just don't have the energy to get into this now. Maybe tomorrow. Suffice to say that travel is travel. If you hit a drop off or jump on a 130mm 29er it is not going to feel as of you're on a 150mm sixer, simply because there's just 130mm travel on your 130mm niner, and 130mm travel can never feel like 150mm. Some suspension designs act differently though, so it may feel different from one 130mm bike to another, and it may SEEM as if it has more travel, but that's just some tricky suspension kinematics at work fooling you into thinking that you're riding something with longer travel and "it's the wheels, bruuuuu" but it's actually just the suspension design, you retard... Some bikes have aggressive geometry, some don't. Some people like to hit bigger jumps and have more of a "safety net" so they go with bikes which have more travel and more relaxed geometry. Where the wheel size will have a difference (albeit a very small one,and only if all other things remain equal) is in directional changes and rollover ability. Everything else comes down to changes in geometry And travel. Some bikes are nippier in the tight stuff, some are more stable at speed. Some manual / wheelie better, some jump better. Some climb better, some descend better. It's all about the intended use of a bike. Not the wheel size.Valid points. Yet, Specialized spec their 650b bikes with longer travel than their 29ers. The 650b enduro has more travel than the 29er enduro, also the 650b stumpy has more travel than the 29er stumpy. When you go back to the old days of 26ers, trail bikes were usually 140 to 150mm, 29er trail bikes are mostly in the 120 to 130mm range.
Christie Posted March 15, 2015 Posted March 15, 2015 get a 29erGreg Minnaar is 1.9m, I wonder what wheel size he won his rainbow stripes on?
Bizkit031 Posted March 15, 2015 Posted March 15, 2015 Bugger wheel size just ride what you feel comfortable on and ride that bike like you stole it,the wheel size thing is getting a bit long in the tooth now.
nickelass Posted March 15, 2015 Posted March 15, 2015 The taller you are, the more suited you are to a 29,er , have reciently got a scott 720 650b and really enjoying it.
rudi-h Posted March 15, 2015 Posted March 15, 2015 I asked the same question 4 months ago when I bought my trail bike. My assessment was that most manufacturers stopped to make 29 inch long travel bikes (santa cruz, giant etc) while all the other manufacturers introduced 650 (specialized). So although I didn't ride a 130mm+ 29er, it seems like industry has made up its mind that DH and Enduro riding shall be done on 650B's. I bought one and it's an awesome bike. Better than a 29er? I don't know,but I think it's here to stay
rudi-h Posted March 15, 2015 Posted March 15, 2015 I asked the same question 4 months ago when I bought my trail bike. My assessment was that most manufacturers stopped to make 29 inch long travel bikes (santa cruz, giant etc) while all the other manufacturers introduced 650 (specialized). So although I didn't ride a 130mm+ 29er, it seems like industry has made up its mind that DH and Enduro riding shall be done on 650B's. I bought one and it's an awesome bike. Better than a 29er? I don't know,but I think it's here to stayEdit: SC still makes the tallboy LT, but the nomads, bronsons and 5010's are 650b only
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted March 15, 2015 Posted March 15, 2015 Valid points. Yet, Specialized spec their 650b bikes with longer travel than their 29ers. The 650b enduro has more travel than the 29er enduro, also the 650b stumpy has more travel than the 29er stumpy. When you go back to the old days of 26ers, trail bikes were usually 140 to 150mm, 29er trail bikes are mostly in the 120 to 130mm range.Yes. However that's mostly due to the way the bigger wheel size compromises the relationship between travel and the wheels fouling the frames on most suspension designs. Yes, there are now ways to get 160mm on a 29er but then it's not as easy as getting 160mm on a 650/26er, and for a long time it just "wasn't possible" to get a long travel 29er (read 140mm plus) thanks to the way the wheels would foul on the rear And without extended chain stays. So that's where it came from imo.
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted March 15, 2015 Posted March 15, 2015 get a 29erAnd the award for blanket statement of the year goes to....
Johny Bravo Posted March 15, 2015 Posted March 15, 2015 Yes. However that's mostly due to the way the bigger wheel size compromises the relationship between travel and the wheels fouling the frames on most suspension designs. Yes, there are now ways to get 160mm on a 29er but then it's not as easy as getting 160mm on a 650/26er, and for a long time it just "wasn't possible" to get a long travel 29er (read 140mm plus) thanks to the way the wheels would foul on the rear And without extended chain stays. So that's where it came from imo.I am just glad we have the option of long travel 29ers. I love them. Some good one out there, Ibis, tallboy lt, stumpy, enduro etc.
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted March 15, 2015 Posted March 15, 2015 I am just glad we have the option of long travel 29ers. I love them. Some good one out there, Ibis, tallboy lt, stumpy, enduro etc.Absolutely. You'd be crazy to discount them just because of the wheel size. And on my next bike I'm definitely going to test flippin EVERYTHING.
Rocket-Boy Posted March 15, 2015 Posted March 15, 2015 Surely a 27.5 rim would be stronger than a 29 rim?Im referring to spoke length and fatigue one a larger circumference rim.
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted March 15, 2015 Posted March 15, 2015 Surely a 27.5 rim would be stronger than a 29 rim?Im referring to spoke length and fatigue one a larger circumference rim.It would be more laterally stiff given the same spoke count, spoke gauge and tension as well as flange diameter. Generally speaking 29er rims should have either more material or a stronger rim profile, larger hub flanges, more or stronger spokes or wider spacing on the flanges to overcome that discrepancy.
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