NotSoBigBen Posted June 10, 2015 Posted June 10, 2015 I don't do pre/during/post training fuels partially because of the cost of these 'supplements' and as someone that just likes riding (ja ja I know, lots ) but will never be a race winner I'm quite happy with just keeping my weight under control and having fun!
Stricker Posted June 10, 2015 Posted June 10, 2015 that sounds serious. But the fasting state or just something to kick start your metabolism works wonders for weight loss, or for me atleast. lost 8kg in a 6 weeks of training, with zero power loss.Personally I don't believe in the kick start metabolism and eat 15 times a day to accelerate it, Tried is all and bottom line is Calories in vs Calories out. Yes you have your insulin spikes Etc Etc but that's got nothing( personal experience) to do with metabolism.What I have discovered and have worked for me personally is ...when I eat my last meal for the day I eat like a pig ( 2x meals in one) by doing that I actually force my metabolism to work overtime or suffocate-something like that. BTW this was not while cycling was just some gym work and weight controlAs stated before will give it a go next month and monitor results.
velomonatiCT Posted June 10, 2015 Posted June 10, 2015 BTW this was not while cycling was just some gym work and weight controlAs stated before will give it a go next month and monitor results. sooo..........why tell us then
Stricker Posted June 10, 2015 Posted June 10, 2015 Cause....Maybe you want to join me on my fasting expedition
velomonatiCT Posted June 10, 2015 Posted June 10, 2015 Cause....Maybe you want to join me on my fasting expedition oh ok no prob
velomonatiCT Posted June 10, 2015 Posted June 10, 2015 Cause....Maybe you want to join me on my fasting expedition id rather watch from a safe distance and toss you an occasional almond
Winstonian1984 Posted June 10, 2015 Posted June 10, 2015 Intermittent fasting rocks. Been doing it for 2 years now. This coupled with cycling has seen me lose close to 25 KGS on a high carb diet. Some tests on fasting and endurance athletes have actually shown that athletes who train fasted experienced higher levels of muscle glycogen, what we cyclist need. I've done some 4 hour zone 2 rides fasted with no negative effects. And I have an odd recover method of not eating for Two hours after training whether fasted or not. When its time to eat I don't hold back.
tombeej Posted June 10, 2015 Posted June 10, 2015 the body can only access fat stores for a max of 120minutes (if your body is conditioned to it ) for fuel after that the body reverts to seeking glycogen from the muscles and liver.Suggest whatever book you got that bunkum from - burn it. Absolute nonsense.
tombeej Posted June 10, 2015 Posted June 10, 2015 Jeez, a lot of misunderstanding of how the human body works on this thread.
tombeej Posted June 10, 2015 Posted June 10, 2015 Intermittent fasting rocks. Been doing it for 2 years now. This coupled with cycling has seen me lose close to 25 KGS on a high carb diet. Some tests on fasting and endurance athletes have actually shown that athletes who train fasted experienced higher levels of muscle glycogen, what we cyclist need. I've done some 4 hour zone 2 rides fasted with no negative effects. And I have an odd recover method of not eating for Two hours after training whether fasted or not. When its time to eat I don't hold back. 100%In fact, as a rule I don't take anything with me but water on rides up to 3 hrs. And I live in a seriously hilly area with long rides often going over 2000m climbing. And 30+ degree heat in summer. On big rides (120km+) I'll pop some gels in my back pockets for when I pass the 3 hr mark. It also applies to high intensity stuff up to 90 min - 2hrs. No need for nutrition during these hard sessions either, because I'm not going anywhere near full glycogen depletion.
velomonatiCT Posted June 10, 2015 Posted June 10, 2015 Suggest whatever book you got that bunkum from - burn it. Absolute nonsense. so as you are the now the self declared expert (on how the human body works on this thread)would you care to back up your opinions with a decent external source or two that indicates that your bunkum is more or less than mine .......before we all go facist and burn some books
tombeej Posted June 10, 2015 Posted June 10, 2015 so as you are the now the self declared expert (on how the human body works on this thread)would you care to back up your opinions with a decent external source or two that indicates that your bunkum is more or less than mine .......before we all go facist and burn some books Sure, will do in the morning. In the middle of load shedding, so on my phone and poor signal. Oh, and chill a bit.
tombeej Posted June 10, 2015 Posted June 10, 2015 velomonatiCT, I realise my first response to a post of yours came on too strong. It would have put my back up too if I was you. My apologies (long day). Let's start afresh in the morning, cool?
velomonatiCT Posted June 10, 2015 Posted June 10, 2015 velomonatiCT, I realise my first response to a post of yours came on too strong. It would have put my back up too if I was you. My apologies (long day). Let's start afresh in the morning, cool? no beef bro I just want to know if my book is burnable or not
FlyingScot Posted June 10, 2015 Posted June 10, 2015 no beef bro I just want to know if my book is burnable or not Ah you guys crack me up
tombeej Posted June 11, 2015 Posted June 11, 2015 Got my chairman visiting today and tomorrow for his monthly visit. Was a little too stretched today to look at much else, so will try make a constructive contribution over the weekend while I watch the Dauphine.
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