Steven Knoetze (sk27) Posted August 6, 2015 Share Jorge Lorenzo broke his on the Thursady in practice and raced to 5th position on the Saturday. Last year's Assen MotoGP race.The op is best, mine healed naturally and I really suffered. 8-10 weeks with lots of pain for the first 2.Good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CycleMomSpeedster Posted August 6, 2015 Share Broke my collarbone At the last road race on 6july as well its 5weeks now and training for the karoo to coast. Was given a S5 pain killer so did not have any pain the first 2weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCD Posted August 6, 2015 Share Do you think the bones would join again if it's far apart like mine? Posted the pics earlier. I asked my orthopaedic if I can leave it to heal on its own and he said he needs to operate as the distance between the bones is too far apart.Look, I can't answer this for you. But I encourage you to keep on asking your doctor questions and ask for detailed explanations. Ask what could happen if you don't do surgery. Is there a plan B if they don't fuse? Can the OP be done later? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCD Posted August 6, 2015 Share And that is in essence the issue. Have a mate who chose not to operate. Three weeks of pin later with the bones still not joined he had it plated. Another friend broke hers falling off a horse. Three weeks later she rebooked the bones rolling over in her sleep and then had it plated. Me I would talk to an expert. As in someone who has actually been to a university and studied this stuff for years and then been given a degree. A medical doctor in other words. They usually know their stuff.Martin, you are right. the decision must ultimately be done by the specialist doctor. But the local health system is flawed as such that a doctor is financially involved in the consequences of his decision. The OP makes him much more money than conservative treatment. In a system like this it takes a strong character in a doctor not to fall for the easy money. In many European countries a hospital doc earns a decent salary and doesn't benefit from operating... this can cause a different recommendation on the same diagnosis.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCD Posted August 6, 2015 Share Thanks for the comprehensive feedback. I understand fully. I do feel comfrtable going for the op. My surgeon has delayed the op now for almost a week to see if the bones will align and not require surgery, but after more xrays yesterday, we could see that the bones are further apart overlapping each other now and seems surgery is the only way to align it. One part of the bone has moved up further and almost protruding through my skin. So I'm comfortable going for the operation. I just hope now recover is speedy. So unnecessary, I'm addicted to being on my bike.Ja, man, I feel for you. I remember my crash. You instantly know what just happened and then that sour feeling sinks in... it sucks big time.Good luck and speedy recovery!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuanJvR89 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Look, I can't answer this for you. But I encourage you to keep on asking your doctor questions and ask for detailed explanations. Ask what could happen if you don't do surgery. Is there a plan B if they don't fuse? Can the OP be done later? Like I said, I had the OP already and busy recovering. Hope to be on the bike soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boerklong Posted August 6, 2015 Share If you do decide to do k2c please dont crash in front of me. I get all naar and funny when people have steel sticking out of their bodies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJR Posted August 7, 2015 Share Martin, you are right. the decision must ultimately be done by the specialist doctor. But the local health system is flawed as such that a doctor is financially involved in the consequences of his decision. The OP makes him much more money than conservative treatment. In a system like this it takes a strong character in a doctor not to fall for the easy money. In many European countries a hospital doc earns a decent salary and doesn't benefit from operating... this can cause a different recommendation on the same diagnosis....In some social national health systems, the opposite sometimes happen too. Doing the proper treatment is hard work that involves risk for the doctor / surgeon, so the incentive is there to do nothing / the minimum treatment. The long and the short of it is TRUST! If you cannot trust your doctor to make the best possible decision for YOU, then you should go to someone else. Without that trust intact, nothing else works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCD Posted August 7, 2015 Share In some social national health systems, the opposite sometimes happen too. Doing the proper treatment is hard work that involves risk for the doctor / surgeon, so the incentive is there to do nothing / the minimum treatment. The long and the short of it is TRUST! If you cannot trust your doctor to make the best possible decision for YOU, then you should go to someone else. Without that trust intact, nothing else works.Well said... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Kaze Pete Posted October 1, 2015 Share I came off my bicycle just over a week ago. Left clavicle broken and the surgeon inserted a plate and six screws for the ends to line up again. I've not had a follow-up appointment with the surgeon, so have no idea on what his treatment plans forward are. My question to all here is this: How soon can I expect to be back on the IDT/spinning bike/Watt bike? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJR Posted October 1, 2015 Share I came off my bicycle just over a week ago. Left clavicle broken and the surgeon inserted a plate and six screws for the ends to line up again. I've not had a follow-up appointment with the surgeon, so have no idea on what his treatment plans forward are. My question to all here is this: How soon can I expect to be back on the IDT/spinning bike/Watt bike?Sorry to say Pete, but you'll have to start reading through this whole thread, the answer in in there. Just kidding! You have to talk to your surgeon and ask him. The standard seems to be about 8 weeks, but you can ride the indoor trainer after about 2 weeks. When you start riding outdoors again after 8 weeks, take it easy because you don't want to take a tumble again at that stage. Perhaps start with road and simple mountain stuff before progressing slowly to the crazy stuff. Heal well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Lotriet Posted October 1, 2015 Share I came off my bicycle just over a week ago. Left clavicle broken and the surgeon inserted a plate and six screws for the ends to line up again. I've not had a follow-up appointment with the surgeon, so have no idea on what his treatment plans forward are. My question to all here is this: How soon can I expect to be back on the IDT/spinning bike/Watt bike? Hi, I happen to be the one who started this thread. I broke mine on 02-Aug. Had surgery on 07-Aug. Against doctor's orders got on the IDT on 15-Aug. Still against doctor's orders did my first ride on the road with my mtb on 05-Sep and have since done over 500km with the mtb, incl K2C and Spur MTB race. Doing 7weekspoort this weekend. I went for my 6 week checkup 2 days before K2C and the bone had grown back but doctor advised I could only then start IDT with one arm, as there was risk that the plate could come loose. Of course I did not tell him about what I have been getting up to. The bone has grown back and the plate is still in place. The ligaments or muscles around the plate are still a bit tender (from the surgery) and more so after a ride but goes away again. Hopefully I am not causing damage but it's the risk I am willing to take. I am stubborn as a mule and addicted to cycling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickGM Posted October 1, 2015 Share I had the exact same injury (grade 3 ACL) 3 weeks ago. They operated the next day as there was just no chance of it healing on its own. Out of interest, how long were you in a sling post-op? I'm at 3 weeks now and still need it for most of the day. What has the recovery been like? Have you regained a full range of motion yet? I ripped all the ligaments (3 grade) tear in my AC. Walked with it for 8 weeks in a sling and nothing attached, had to go in for surgery last week Tuesday to rebuild my shoulder .... Looking better but off from riding for another 8 weeksImageUploadedByTapatalk1438877859.356118.jpgImageUploadedByTapatalk1438877872.531674.jpgImageUploadedByTapatalk1438877886.321003.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbo_SA Posted October 1, 2015 Share Sorry to say Pete, but you'll have to start reading through this whole thread, the answer in in there. Just kidding! You have to talk to your surgeon and ask him. The standard seems to be about 8 weeks, but you can ride the indoor trainer after about 2 weeks. When you start riding outdoors again after 8 weeks, take it easy because you don't want to take a tumble again at that stage. Perhaps start with road and simple mountain stuff before progressing slowly to the crazy stuff. Heal well!Every break is different, every persons pain threshold is different. My mate was back on Rietvlei blue on day 6 after the op, his was a clean break but still had it pinned & plated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Lotriet Posted October 1, 2015 Share I had the exact same injury (grade 3 ACL) 3 weeks ago. They operated the next day as there was just no chance of it healing on its own. Out of interest, how long were you in a sling post-op? I'm at 3 weeks now and still need it for most of the day. What has the recovery been like? Have you regained a full range of motion yet? I could only get an op 5 days after my fall as doctor wanted an elbow wound to heal first due to risk of infection during surgery. I wore the sling those 5 days. Had the op the Friday and wore the sling the weekend and the Monday which was a public holiday. Took the sling of the Tuesday and drove back to work. Did not wear it since and regained full motion about a week later. Still can't sleep on the shoulder though as it seems to tighten up bit when I lie on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Kaze Pete Posted October 1, 2015 Share Some ""before"and "after"pics, What I did: What the doc did: I'm not sure which hospital @V12Man works from... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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