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Swapping Deore XT brakes around - do I need to bleed them?


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Just bought myself a new SC Tallboy but the brakes are the wrong way round - I'm used to the UK system with the back brake on the left, front on the right.  The bike shop have installed them the other way round.

 

If I want to swap them around can I simply remove the hoses and swap them over, or do I need to do a full bleed?  The brakes are Deore XT - latest version.

 

Any advice would be much appreciated.  I'm a roadie who's just started with a MTB so hydraulics are new to me.

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Thanks for the advice - much appreciated.  Now to find out how to bleed brakes properly!

XT's are quite easy..it might be worth it to just take it to a lbs and let them do it for you...they will have the olives and shimano mineral oil as well as the equipment.

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Naught Boets!

 

They're Shimano XT.

 

They're the best brakes in the world and never need bleeding!

 

But really, they can be swopped without bleeding. I've seen Jason at The Trail Head do this on test bikes when a customer rides with brakes the WRONG way around.

 

He simply disconnects the hoses from the levers (while everything is still on the bike), making sure the open end stays as high as possible, then reconnects.

 

Obviously over time, if one keeps doing this, the air introduced into the system will require a bleed. But for a once off, it works.

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Why not just unscrew the hose at the lever and swap them around? I have been led to believe that in 90% (you know what they say about statistics though) of cases if you're careful it will be fine but in the worst case a bleed would be needed.

 

No salad ingredients and cut hoses and stuff surely?

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Just bought myself a new SC Tallboy but the brakes are the wrong way round - I'm used to the UK system with the back brake on the left, front on the right.  The bike shop have installed them the other way round.

 

If I want to swap them around can I simply remove the hoses and swap them over, or do I need to do a full bleed?  The brakes are Deore XT - latest version.

 

Any advice would be much appreciated.  I'm a roadie who's just started with a MTB so hydraulics are new to me.

 

if you haven't a clue (which appears the case and its ok as you are a self declared noob )

 

take it back to the LBS and ask them to change it

 

it is quite messy and complicated and unless you really want to go there just get them to do it the way you want

 

they shouldn't even charge for it

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Why not just unscrew the hose at the lever and swap them around? I have been led to believe that in 90% (you know what they say about statistics though) of cases if you're careful it will be fine but in the worst case a bleed would be needed.

 

No salad ingredients and cut hoses and stuff surely?

I wanted to add that...should work if you are very carefull. No cutting needed indeed

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Why not just unscrew the hose at the lever and swap them around? I have been led to believe that in 90% (you know what they say about statistics though) of cases if you're careful it will be fine but in the worst case a bleed would be needed.

 

No salad ingredients and cut hoses and stuff surely?

 

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If you just swap sides the master cylinder with current generation XT brakes (M785 i think) will be upside down. Not a good thing. Fluid flows downhill, so eventually you will run in to issues.

 

You have to swap hoses around and keep the levers in place, and as Brakes are hydraulic - there needs to be no air in the system as it is compressible where fluid isn't.  If you open them up then air gets in - you have to bleed them.

 

Take it to your bike shop if you haven't done it before - its easier and less messy.

Shimano uses mineral oil not brake fluid BTW and you can't interchange it with normal brake fluid cause the seals will get destroyed.

 

If you want to bleed them yourself then you will have the bets results when you take them off the bike and simply gravity bleed them. Just google 'Bleeding Shimano XT brakes"

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