BarHugger Posted October 28, 2015 Posted October 28, 2015 Interesting read: The Effects of High Intensity Interval Training vs Steady State Training on Aerobic and Anaerobic CapacityJournal of Sports Science and Medicine (2015) 14, 747-755 Interval vs steady state jssm-14-747.pdf In short: High intensity interval training (HIIT) has become an increasingly popular form of exercise due to its potentially large effects on exercise capacity and small time requirement. This study compared the effects of two HIIT protocols vs steady-state training on aerobic and anaerobic capacity following 8-weeks of training. The results suggest that although HIIT protocols are time efficient, they are not superior to conventional exercise training in sedentary young adults. But then again, one needs to consider the training principle of exercise specificity and adaptation .
SwissVan Posted October 28, 2015 Posted October 28, 2015 I wonder how (or if) the conclusion would be different if the study participants were experienced athletes and not sedentary adults? An interesting point relevant to the other thread (Vets racing bad for your heart) about the HIIT and older athletes AND that the test participants enjoyed the HIIT Tabata training less compared to a milder interval type training.... In my experience i find that i enjoy HIIT training more than milder or LSD type training, perhaps because its a challenge? Interesting comment at the end...Quote: "Perhaps, in our quest to find the ‘perfect exercise’ we have missed the more important issue of how to make exercise enjoyable enough to be continued long term". I wonder if they considered mountain biking...?
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted October 28, 2015 Posted October 28, 2015 I wonder how (or if) the conclusion would be different if the study participants were experienced athletes and not sedentary adults? An interesting point relevant to the other thread (Vets racing bad for your heart) about the HIIT and older athletes AND that the test participants enjoyed the HIIT Tabata training less compared to a milder interval type training.... In my experience i find that i enjoy HIIT training more than milder or LSD type training, perhaps because its a challenge? Interesting comment at the end...Quote: "Perhaps, in our quest to find the ‘perfect exercise’ we have missed the more important issue of how to make exercise enjoyable enough to be continued long term". I wonder if they considered mountain biking...? On technical terrain. Indeed. The variations in effort required to clear certain obstacles are huge. One minute you're dieselling along, cranking out at your "comfort" level, the next you get to a technical section and you HAVE to boost it significantly to have a chance of clearing it...
SwissVan Posted October 28, 2015 Posted October 28, 2015 On technical terrain. Indeed. The variations in effort required to clear certain obstacles are huge. One minute you're dieselling along, cranking out at your "comfort" level, the next you get to a technical section and you HAVE to boost it significantly to have a chance of clearing it... Yes that's very true, but i think you missed my not so obvious point about mtbking... The study said: perhaps we have missed the more important issue of how to make exercise enjoyable enough to be continued long term If more people rode mtbks as they were intended to be used, i suspect it would be incredibly enjoyable and the long term issue would not be an issue....
EmptyB Posted October 28, 2015 Posted October 28, 2015 On technical terrain. Indeed. The variations in effort required to clear certain obstacles are huge. One minute you're dieselling along, cranking out at your "comfort" level, the next you get to a technical section and you HAVE to boost it significantly to have a chance of clearing it... That's why the best training for me is just riding my bike on all sorts of different terrain and difficulty. A good all round ride 3 times a week includes HIIT and LSD. Keep it simple....but hey, that's me. Whilst I do use the indoor trainer/spinning at the gym, it bores me to tears some times!
SwissVan Posted October 28, 2015 Posted October 28, 2015 That's why the best training for me is just riding my bike on all sorts of different terrain and difficulty. A good all round ride 3 times a week includes HIIT and LSD. Keep it simple....but hey, that's me. Whilst I do use the indoor trainer/spinning at the gym, it bores me to tears some times! Maybe try some short HIIT* sessions to erase the boredom? *Disclaimer: Always check with your friendly medical professional before undertaking any intensive exercise.
BarHugger Posted October 28, 2015 Author Posted October 28, 2015 On technical terrain. Indeed. The variations in effort required to clear certain obstacles are huge. One minute you're dieselling along, cranking out at your "comfort" level, the next you get to a technical section and you HAVE to boost it significantly to have a chance of clearing it... And that is where the problem lies. It has been reported that MTBers can develop higher power figures than roadies..... .....but that roadies can maintain a higher average power output for a longer duration of time. Motto: "Train the way you are going to play" Another article:(although a small "steekproef" in a simulated environment) The numbers can be used as reference (but with some reservations) MTB Physiological parameters jssm-14-799.pdf Physiological Demands of Simulated Off-Road Cycling CompetitionJournal of Sports Science and Medicine (2015) 14, 799-810
Martin PJ Posted October 28, 2015 Posted October 28, 2015 I have been riding for a long time and my conclusion is that you always need to try new things to make it interesting. Any form of training gets boring after a while. Adding a new way of training to your routine always seems to bring short term improvements.
Martin PJ Posted October 28, 2015 Posted October 28, 2015 It has been reported that MTBers can develop higher power figures than roadies..... .....but that roadies can maintain a higher average power output for a longer duration of time. The statement above has not been my experience since switching from road to MTB about 5 years ago. On the road now my ability to hang in for 10 minute super efforts is gone, however, on the MTB I can push myself a lot harder for long efforts (last hour or two of the race). This for the 100 kay plus races. Used to be a petrol, now I am a diesel.
HappyMartin Posted October 28, 2015 Posted October 28, 2015 I agree with sentiments relating to enjoying the exercise and to changing things to keep it new. From 1993 to 2005 only rode MTB. Then tried road and did road and mtb for about 5 years. Now pretty much just road. I'm 55 and see myself riding for many years still to come. Steady state training has its place. I call it base. HIT is also fun. But not if I haven't already established a base.
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