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We did approximately 240km with (I guess) about 3000m vertical. Eventual riding time was 12 hours. We stopped for my cracked rim (had to go back to his shop), breakfast and three drinks breaks. I definitely slowed us down a lot around the 160 mark. Had nothing in the legs for while.

That's a good distance and climbing for the ride time!

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What Mr Walker said.

 

For the munga there are stations every 200km. and water points every 60 or so km.

 

So my mental state is that I am riding 6, 200km stages back to back, with an hour or three inbetween. Each stage is then made of 2 or 3 60km rides. So I am doing 20, 60km rides back to back.

 

But here is the challenge for you Wahoo.

 

take the distance you did on that 4/5hr ride. Same route same everything - but ride it with as low a HR as possible. Try keep your HR in the upper part of zone 1 or lower part of zone 2. So that means you are never really pushing yourself. It will be mentally challenging not to go fast, but be conservative. When you finish, ask yourself if you could do it again at the same pace, or maybe 3 times at the same pace. It is all about conservation of energy.

 

I truelly belive that anyone who can finish argus or 94.7 has the fitness and physical strength to finish something like the desert dash, munga, TB. It is just do they have the mental ability to believe in themselves that they can do it.

 

Personally, it is currently the saddle issues that are holding me back from believing I can finish this Munga. In terms of training everything is going well. If I can get the saddle issues sorted, then I know I can finish. Yes, I will most likely finish last, but if I can get the saddle sorted, then I know I will be able to.

Nice!

 

....and riding with a HR as low as possible makes a massive difference, especially as you get to the last 30% say.

 

Easier said than done and I actually battle to "contain" myself sometimes!

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BTW...any news on the live tracking this year. Same as last year or "new and improved"?

*shrugs shoulders* Mrs Slowbee asked me the same thing!

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We just curious cos we all gonna be watching you like hawks...no pressure ;)

ja, I mean the way these other folks are training it will be over in a day and half. Someone has to give you something to do.

 

#feelingthepressurebigtime!

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Found this article in my FB feed yesterday. Would be interesting to know how this applies to ultra endurance.

 

http://trainright.com/how-long-should-your-longest-training-ride-be/

 

I'm hoping to enter the event next year, but my mind cannot get around training for 8 hrs,let alone 12-15hrs. Actually I've never did training ride of more than 5 hrs(normally 1-2hrs), but I've raced for 7 hrs without any issues (well not more than a 3 hrs race).

 

Personally I think the biggest thing of doing long hrs on bike is the teaching you how to manage your food/water and getting over the dead hands/feet/arse etc, also what tools/equipment works/don't work... Not so much getting your muscles stronger.

 

But of course, i'm probably completely  wrong as well, and will die at 300km

Sounds about right. If you can ride for 6 hours, you can ride for 24 hours, and I suspect 5 days. Long rides teach you about your body, how you respond to heat, cold, dehydration, bonking etc.

 

Personally, in the name of training, I see no point in riding for more than 6 hours. That doesn't mean that riding with mates all day long is a bad thing. For me, that's what bike riding is all about!

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Sounds about right. If you can ride for 6 hours, you can ride for 24 hours, and I suspect 5 days. Long rides teach you about your body, how you respond to heat, cold, dehydration, bonking, LACK OF SLEEP etc.

 

 

 

 

Long rides teach you a lot, but I think the one thing that will remain an unknown is how your body responds to little or no proper sleep over an extended period of time.

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If my post come across as an offense to Anton, then please offer my apologies. The post was not aimed at him at all. Having seen his older posts and also photo's his commitment to the family is evident.

 

My post was meant to offer a perspective on the training and time. It was meant to highlight that for an event like this the time to train has to be sacrificed somewhere. It would be totally unacceptable to make any remarks regarding someone who cannot post. So again, please accept my apologies if my post cam across as such.

 

There are 100 or so of us who have entered, each of us has our own reasons, and each their own story. All I was trying to get across was where you are in life, and how important riding is to you will all influence how much effort you put in. Again, I have had to put in leave to train. November the training really ramps up and I have to take time from work. This means we dont get time away for christmas and new year.

Your post did not offend anyone as far as i know Slowbee, in fact, it should inspire people to take them out of their comfort zones and challenge themselves to do stuff like this while also keeping their loved ones happy.

Sorry.  Did not intent my question (above) to be offensive or negative.

 

I am  very much intrigued  by the Munga and bike-packing  style ride/races.

 

Thanks for all the positive responses and to see how other regular guys (non-pro)  manage to make the dream a reality. 

It's very motivational and keeps the flame alive. 

 

Respect to all that entered and putting the sacrifices and required training.

 

I'll be rooted to the  tracking screen (like last year)   come Munga-time and cheering for all.

 

I hope my response didn't come across as having been offended, I didn't see it that way.

I simply was giving some input because it had started with the post about Thor/Sheriff/Nathrix riding and people asking how they could do it. I actually just meant to show in a positive way that he is fortunate to be able to still get that family time in as well as these massive rides.

Maybe if I'd written it later in the day without the sleep still in my eyes I'd have worded it better :P

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What would I have done differently? Simply: not get sick.

 

What have done different for 2017 is reduce my 'training' distances dramatically (I am a junk-mileage whore once I get started) and rather spend a lot of time collapsing into a heap doing strength training. This is more because I don't have the time to spend on the bike this time round - which is possibly a blessing - apparently this is the way it should be done.

 

We will see.

 

 

Mr Brink

 

You are reading this? Give us your experience from last year ?

 

What happened and what will you do different this time round ?

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What would I have done differently? Simply: not get sick.

 

What have done different for 2017 is reduce my 'training' distances dramatically (I am a junk-mileage whore once I get started) and rather spend a lot of time collapsing into a heap doing strength training. This is more because I don't have the time to spend on the bike this time round - which is possibly a blessing - apparently this is the way it should be done.

 

We will see.

tell me more please ? are you following the idea of not doing more than 6 hrs on the bike at a time ?

 

Also, are you still going to use the same garmin you did last year?

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tell me more please ? are you following the idea of not doing more than 6 hrs on the bike at a time ?

 

Also, are you still going to use the same garmin you did last year?

5 x200km-ish stages, some sleep in between each; actual plan to be implemented as we go along. I think that is what the plan is.

 

I think you need some form of pre-determined schedule, but you also need to be flexible and adapt to the conditions. That doesn't help much, does it? Sorry. 

 

Yup - same Garmin. Will put the tracker device further away from it this time. I think they had an affair while I was riding. Kept looking for quieter spots, off the track.

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5 x200km-ish stages, some sleep in between each; actual plan to be implemented as we go along. I think that is what the plan is.

 

I think you need some form of pre-determined schedule, but you also need to be flexible and adapt to the conditions. That doesn't help much, does it? Sorry. 

 

 

You are right, you should have a strategy but as Mike Tyson says "everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the face".

 

Planning for what can go wrong is important and being able to recognise any given situation and adopting the appropriate steps, crucial particularly when tired, hungry and sleep deprived

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If you can ride for 6 hours, you can ride for 24 hours, and I suspect 5 days.

 

Please don't say that! There are "odd" people like me reading this...

And I'm really hating this thread. I'm hating this here Hub. Will be getting a divorce shortly. The other half hates my cycling.

BUT if 6 hours for long ride training is enough, maybe not???

Seriously, I did my first Trans Baviaans in August and loved it. Slow, yes, but I was jumping around like a flea at the finish.

Longest training ride was 130km/7hrs, average for long rides was 6hrs. Longest event before that was (a one and only) K2C.

Ha!

Watching you all with interest! Too much interest.

Keep going guys.

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