Guest colonel Posted April 25, 2008 Share I doubt JL will be doing the Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pirate Posted April 25, 2008 Share Most of the other riders that are going to the Olympics will ride in the TdF. I think they'll be ok, but I think not doing it might have been better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myra Posted April 25, 2008 Share Great to see David made it....  Only one question' date=' Why John Lee? He has done jacjk sh*t this year. There are far better choices than him. 1000 bucks only David finishes the Road race.[/quote']  Maybe you should follow whats going on at the races before saying he did jack sh*t!!! He has been in winning brake aways at a tour stage or 2 and had bad luck from punchers close to the end. I think Chunky is more in touch with these guys than the rest of us, so don't dismiss his comment quite so easily.Second, did someone punch John lee and stop him winning something?  Gives new meaning to 'attacking the bunch...' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witrot Posted April 25, 2008 Share Can any one tell me why Jl is in the Giro selection team then as there are quit a couple more riders in the team??????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFroome Posted April 25, 2008 Share I actually can't believe some of the things I'm reading in this forum... John Lee is riding extremely well at the moment and he will only be getting stronger as the season goes on!    It's incredibly easy for people back in SA to comment when they see that he finished at the back or didn't even finish at all in some races but they fail to understand that racing over here isn't about your personal position in the race. If you spend time pacing on the front (which JL often does in the races which don't suit him) then it is physically impossible to get a good result at the same time... Well that's unless you get 'special' help from Chunky of course...   If you still doubt JL then you'll have to wait and see for yourself how he goes in races which are similar to the Olympic circuit with more than 10km of climbing each lap... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witrot Posted April 25, 2008 Share I actually can't believe some of the things I'm reading in this forum... John Lee is riding extremely well at the moment and he will only be getting stronger as the season goes on! It's incredibly easy for people back in SA to comment when they see that he finished at the back or didn't even finish at all in some races but they fail to understand that racing over here isn't about your personal position in the race. If you spend time pacing on the front (which JL often does in the races which don't suit him) then it is physically impossible to get a good result at the same time... Well that's unless you get 'special' help from Chunky of course... If you still doubt JL then you'll have to wait and see for yourself how he goes in races which are similar to the Olympic circuit with more than 10km of climbing each lap... Â Â Like always.....Easy to judge just the results!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groot Lem Posted April 25, 2008 Share So what do you think about the combination . I believe 100% in John lee, the future polka dot man. I just thought that maybe he's still battling with his injury. its difficult to know if you guys dont tell us.What do you think of RH chances on that circuit?Will JL ride the Giro? And Tour? And you?Welcome to the HUB, dont take it too serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chunky Posted April 25, 2008 Share  I actually can't believe some of the things I'm reading in this forum... John Lee is riding extremely well at the moment and he will only be getting stronger as the season goes on! It's incredibly easy for people back in SA to comment when they see that he finished at the back or didn't even finish at all in some races but they fail to understand that racing over here isn't about your personal position in the race. If you spend time pacing on the front (which JL often does in the races which don't suit him) then it is physically impossible to get a good result at the same time... Well that's unless you get 'special' help from Chunky of course... If you still doubt JL then you'll have to wait and see for yourself how he goes in races which are similar to the Olympic circuit with more than 10km of climbing each lap...  Chriss, Firstly, I stopped giving Barloworld Riders 'Special' some time ago. Secondly, I am not the only Chunky out there. I am sure your team mates can point you in the right direction. And Thirdly, nobody said that JL was not a good or talented rider. All I am saying is that at this point in time he may not be the best option. Perhaps they need to look at other riders who are going well and also suited to the course. You guys get your balls in a knot as soon as anyone gives any critisism. What is being debated is the question as to wether or not the best team has been chosen at this point in time. JL when he is going well should have no problems, but unfortunately it doesnt look that rosey for him at the moment. Lets hope he recovers completely and is able to do his part at the olympics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poison Ivy Posted April 25, 2008 Share  I actually can't believe some of the things I'm reading in this forum... John Lee is riding extremely well at the moment and he will only be getting stronger as the season goes on! It's incredibly easy for people back in SA to comment when they see that he finished at the back or didn't even finish at all in some races but they fail to understand that racing over here isn't about your personal position in the race. If you spend time pacing on the front (which JL often does in the races which don't suit him) then it is physically impossible to get a good result at the same time... Well that's unless you get 'special' help from Chunky of course... If you still doubt JL then you'll have to wait and see for yourself how he goes in races which are similar to the Olympic circuit with more than 10km of climbing each lap...  Chriss' date=' Firstly, I stopped giving Barloworld Riders 'Special' some time ago. Secondly, I am not the only Chunky out there. I am sure your team mates can point you in the right direction. And Thirdly, nobody said that JL was not a good or talented rider. All I am saying is that at this point in time he may not be the best option. Perhaps they need to look at other riders who are going well and also suited to the course. You guys get your balls in a knot as soon as anyone gives any critisism. What is being debated is the question as to wether or not the best team has been chosen at this point in time. JL when he is going well should have no problems, but unfortunately it doesnt look that rosey for him at the moment. Lets hope he recovers completely and is able to do his part at the olympics.[/quote']   I love it when you explain so nicely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chunky Posted April 25, 2008 Share   I love it when you explain so nicely  It takes longer with some than others..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witrot Posted April 25, 2008 Share  I actually can't believe some of the things I'm reading in this forum... John Lee is riding extremely well at the moment and he will only be getting stronger as the season goes on! It's incredibly easy for people back in SA to comment when they see that he finished at the back or didn't even finish at all in some races but they fail to understand that racing over here isn't about your personal position in the race. If you spend time pacing on the front (which JL often does in the races which don't suit him) then it is physically impossible to get a good result at the same time... Well that's unless you get 'special' help from Chunky of course... If you still doubt JL then you'll have to wait and see for yourself how he goes in races which are similar to the Olympic circuit with more than 10km of climbing each lap...  Chriss' date=' Firstly, I stopped giving Barloworld Riders 'Special' some time ago. Secondly, I am not the only Chunky out there. I am sure your team mates can point you in the right direction. And Thirdly, nobody said that JL was not a good or talented rider. All I am saying is that at this point in time he may not be the best option. Perhaps they need to look at other riders who are going well and also suited to the course. You guys get your balls in a knot as soon as anyone gives any critisism. What is being debated is the question as to wether or not the best team has been chosen at this point in time. JL when he is going well should have no problems, but unfortunately it doesnt look that rosey for him at the moment. Lets hope he recovers completely and is able to do his part at the olympics.[/quote']  Let us see. So, DG big thing was Giro de capo. So he peaked big time for this part if i remeber cause he thought he was going to win it..... And who looked after him on the climbs, Robbie Hunter making jokes with him! He only lost the spitting part if i remember correctly. Now if he was there on top form for giro, then i'm affraid he is not good enough for olimpics! And i'm sure RH is much stronger now then when he was here for the Giro. Then, does DG rides big races on a regular basis, meaning big classics like on the europe circuit, or does he just train hard and do some small race compare to the big ones. Think you need bit more than just good training to perform well against the worlds best. Sure you know that too! If you (meaning everyone) will follow a bit more in detail what goes on overseas, then maybe you will know whats going on! That is actaully so easy to do. All of them have webpages, team pages, news from cyclingnews etc.Witrot2008-04-25 09:16:48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windbreaker Posted April 25, 2008 Share time will tell ... It seems to me that if DG could put his differences aside with ... well just about everyone, then he'd actually get further Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chunky Posted April 25, 2008 Share Personaly if it were up to me I wouldn't send any South African rider.Realisticaly none of them are going to feature. Its actualy quite poor that we are debating as to who will actually be able to finish the race rather than be a contender?????  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest colonel Posted April 25, 2008 Share Witrot: Â I remember DG having no team for what 2 years and not racing anywhere locally or similiar and still doing pretty well at Commonwealth and Worlds. So maybe the "have to race in Europe to do well" isnt the case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witrot Posted April 25, 2008 Share Actaully there are couple riders good enough. Never know, maybe the get the right brake away! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craven Posted April 25, 2008 Share Witrot, you just proved Chris' point without even realizing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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