Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted April 25, 2016 Posted April 25, 2016 Not in my experience.your experience is somewhat limited, though, Pierre. Even though you've been a member since 2013, Patch has a bit more history here.... He's also right. With properly considered complaints, backed up by suitable evidence and sufficient reason, those "rants" which fit the above criteria have been largely met with positive responses. Well, positive in that there has been large levels of support for the aggrieved party. Fake Spaz threadMost Expensive Cycling Shirt (Dibles' thread) Hayley's Intense frame debacle To name a few. Most of the other rants have been just that - Rants. Potentially ill-considered attacks on a person and / or corporation based upon either assumptions of entitlement or ignorance - as well as a serious lack of introspection from the OP. Bottom line - when there's a PROPER rant (one that is justifiable) the OP's plight is often met with sympathy or empathy. Improperly constructed and / or thought out rants are met with just the opposite. Increasingly so when the OP will not accept an alternative viewpoint.
TheV Posted April 25, 2016 Posted April 25, 2016 Absolute bs that the standard response on the hub is to blame the OP... If you don't have anything constructive to add, then maybe that can be your retort. In this specific case, the OP specifically lacked the technical skills/knowledge to correctly assemble and install the parts purchased online, and my initial comment stands... If you want to buy online, and learn how to diy, gain knowledge and experience, then you should be willing to take the risk that sometimes you might get it wrong, but you take the medicine and move on... If you expect everything to magically just work by luck or chance, then purchase from a LBS. The ops attitude on how all online stores now all of the sudden have to up their game, check their goods before shipping, do this and do that is a joke.... You got it wrong, let the shop help you fix it and stop crying like a girl about it... Still didn't answer my question on who removed the lefty and installed the new forks, because this was also you, then I suggest you get someone to check your work dude... And not posting pictures is a jerk move too...
Brickleberry Posted April 25, 2016 Posted April 25, 2016 which is about as often as the ANC really wish Dragon's would bring in the Giant wheels.I spoke to someone who told me the giant wheels are out from the factory and they have even shipped some bikes with different wheels as they cannot keep up with demand. Would love a set myself .
TheV Posted April 25, 2016 Posted April 25, 2016 your experience is somewhat limited, though, Pierre. Even though you've been a member since 2013, Patch has a bit more history here.... He's also right. With properly considered complaints, backed up by suitable evidence and sufficient reason, those "rants" which fit the above criteria have been largely met with positive responses. Well, positive in that there has been large levels of support for the aggrieved party. Fake Spaz threadMost Expensive Cycling Shirt (Dibles' thread) Hayley's Intense frame debacle To name a few. Most of the other rants have been just that - Rants. Potentially ill-considered attacks on a person and / or corporation based upon either assumptions of entitlement or ignorance - as well as a serious lack of introspection from the OP. Bottom line - when there's a PROPER rant (one that is justifiable) the OP's plight is often met with sympathy or empathy. Improperly constructed and / or thought out rants are met with just the opposite. Increasingly so when the OP will not accept an alternative viewpoint. Snap, that's what I said, just with a bit of irritation added
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted April 25, 2016 Posted April 25, 2016 I spoke to someone who told me the giant wheels are out from the factory and they have even shipped some bikes with different wheels as they cannot keep up with demand. Would love a set myself .Hmmm. That smells like BS to me. What bikes, and what wheels? Some giants spec higher-end wheelsets out the box.
BarHugger Posted April 25, 2016 Posted April 25, 2016 Mattewis Jantjes.......wat ek nou nie lekker vertsaan nie ou spiere.....you bought the wheels in Jaanrie and you only notice the problem now.......or did I miss something ?
BarHugger Posted April 25, 2016 Posted April 25, 2016 Not many bikes I know with a fork at the back.Fork my sywaarts......does something like that even exist......
TheV Posted April 25, 2016 Posted April 25, 2016 a fork at the back?..some people really like a forks at the backside... Even me....
Tubehunter Posted April 25, 2016 Posted April 25, 2016 a fork at the back?..some people really like a forks at the backside... Even me.... Eishhh nought bru!
SwissVan Posted April 25, 2016 Posted April 25, 2016 I have contacted the store and mailed them the details - so now we wait. Sales guy said he will get me a quote for this, not sure yet how I feel about that. Bad thing is the part number includes two other pieces, so I might end up paying for something I don't need.. I am not giving you pictures gents because then the discussion is whether it is obviously noticible and that is not the point as the bikeshop did not notice it either. And in retrospect things are always obvious as it is even obvious to me now and in a way I feel stupid that I did not notice it. But that is the thing with hindsight. The question is not whether you can notice a difference, the question is who pays the school fees, me or the store? Depends on the price and the speed the part can be sourced I guess. PS: If the part fell off during transit, it would mean that the axle was not assembled properly or the content not packed properly. My fault also? How did u not notice a clunk clunk in 4 months of riding, or was this your first ride without your music (head phones)? Post a pic after you get the missing part, nothing to be embarrassed about, its not like you put your helmut on back to front or something
The expat cyclist Posted April 25, 2016 Author Posted April 25, 2016 Absolute bs that the standard response on the hub is to blame the OP... If you don't have anything constructive to add, then maybe that can be your retort.In this specific case, the OP specifically lacked the technical skills/knowledge to correctly assemble and install the parts purchased online, and my initial comment stands... If you want to buy online, and learn how to diy, gain knowledge and experience, then you should be willing to take the risk that sometimes you might get it wrong, but you take the medicine and move on... If you expect everything to magically just work by luck or chance, then purchase from a LBS. The ops attitude on how all online stores now all of the sudden have to up their game, check their goods before shipping, do this and do that is a joke.... You got it wrong, let the shop help you fix it and stop crying like a girl about it...Still didn't answer my question on who removed the lefty and installed the new forks, because this was also you, then I suggest you get someone to check your work dude...And not posting pictures is a jerk move too...So, who is you that you feel I need to answer to you or even care what you think?Yaaaawn dude. Yaaaaaawn.
TheV Posted April 25, 2016 Posted April 25, 2016 So, who is you that you feel I need to answer to you or even care what you think?Yaaaawn dude. Yaaaaaawn.I'm sorry, but I must decline a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent.
BarHugger Posted April 26, 2016 Posted April 26, 2016 I'm sorry, but I must decline a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent.But he has beeeeeeg guns........
TheTashkentExpress Posted April 26, 2016 Posted April 26, 2016 In this specific case, the OP specifically lacked the technical skills/knowledge to correctly assemble and install the parts purchased online...I think you'll find what he really lacked was the stuff he paid for. The ops attitude on how all online stores now all of the sudden have to up their game, check their goods before shipping, do this and do that is a joke.... You got it wrong, let the shop help you fix it and stop crying like a girl about it...Probably wouldn't have gotten it wrong if the retailer had gotten it right in the first place.Still didn't answer my question on who removed the lefty and installed the new forks, because this was also you, then I suggest you get someone to check your work dude... And not posting pictures is a jerk move too...So is trying to "tough talk" someone online.
Paul Ruinaard Posted April 26, 2016 Posted April 26, 2016 Absolute bs that the standard response on the hub is to blame the OP... If you don't have anything constructive to add, then maybe that can be your retort. In this specific case, the OP specifically lacked the technical skills/knowledge to correctly assemble and install the parts purchased online, and my initial comment stands... If you want to buy online, and learn how to diy, gain knowledge and experience, then you should be willing to take the risk that sometimes you might get it wrong, but you take the medicine and move on... If you expect everything to magically just work by luck or chance, then purchase from a LBS. The ops attitude on how all online stores now all of the sudden have to up their game, check their goods before shipping, do this and do that is a joke.... You got it wrong, let the shop help you fix it and stop crying like a girl about it... Still didn't answer my question on who removed the lefty and installed the new forks, because this was also you, then I suggest you get someone to check your work dude... And not posting pictures is a jerk move too...well said son Started typing a similar response but you said it better. How many times do you get some new bits at a bargain online and are hot n heavy to fit it asap and test it out only to find a bit missing or even worse a major mistake in your fitment? FWIW: There are lost of folks who marvel at what i will attempt to fix myself on a bike and often mates ask me for help with mundane things that they dont know themselves which I take for granted. Anyway - not everyone can claim to be technically inclined. Its no shame or embarrassment and you learn by making mistakes - which will be pointed out to you. Remember the Jack Welch story about the guy who lost millions in GE and wanted to resign owing to the mistake. His response was not to accept the resignation because he had just spent millions training the guy and was pretty sure he would never make the some mistake again. I think you are the same. OP: the biggest mistake you are making is not taking on board that you made an error and accepting the fact that you can correct it and apologize and make right what you did wrong. We have all had a handbags at dawn moment here on the forum with many members. In general the scrutiny is only turned on to you when there is something that doesn't make sense and then the OP gets defensive. There is a lot of BS that walks through this forums door and it generally results in people having very advanced BS detectors.
raptor-22 Posted April 26, 2016 Posted April 26, 2016 Snap, that's what I said, just with a bit of irritation addedSo it's ok for you to be irritated and liked but not for the op ..... They would be a double standard.If you want to moan about irrational rants then let the advice begin at home.
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