Gen Posted July 11, 2017 Posted July 11, 2017 How often does it really happen? I do not recall to many instances. There was the Contador/Schleck incident a few years ago. Last year CF also had a bike change but that was after a motorbike wrote his bike off. Don't think that was on order I remeber in the Lance / Ulirch days there was one tour where both waited on one another. So I do not think this is something that gets manipulated. Also when an attack is in progress then I think it is tough for the leader in anyway. It is only not to attack when there is a technical.Nibali attacked Froome in 2015 when Froome had a bike issue..think he also did the same at the Vuelta.. I remember something like that,.. Astana attacked Bert during the Giro when he had a bike issue. Seems to happen more frequently these days than previously or just more is made of it now than before, seems as if we are debating these things mire often lately.[emoji39] Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk
Pah Bear Posted July 11, 2017 Posted July 11, 2017 Are there any facts to support the "abuse of mechanicals" to change to different equipment? I'm not being naive to believe this cannot/did not ever happen but I would think they would lose all credibility if they pulled that kind of stunt and got caught out. But then again same could be said of getting doped up and many seem to still do that. So ... I'm just trying to separate perception/unproven opinion from proven occurrences. Don't believe CF would have done that on Sunday like some are suggesting.
Rocket-Boy Posted July 11, 2017 Posted July 11, 2017 How often does it really happen? I do not recall to many instances. There was the Contador/Schleck incident a few years ago. Last year CF also had a bike change but that was after a motorbike wrote his bike off. Don't think that was on order I remeber in the Lance / Ulirch days there was one tour where both waited on one another. So I do not think this is something that gets manipulated. Also when an attack is in progress then I think it is tough for the leader in anyway. It is only not to attack when there is a technical.Im pretty sure it was last year(or the one before) that Nibs attacked Froome when he had a stone stuck in his rear mech on the one narrow climb.
Rocket-Boy Posted July 11, 2017 Posted July 11, 2017 Really wanted Bardet to take the stage win yesterday.What a racer.Did not account for Big Ring Rigo though! Happy x 1000000!Were you watching something I missed? All I saw yesterday was a rest day
Gen Posted July 11, 2017 Posted July 11, 2017 Are there any facts to support the "abuse of mechanicals" to change to different equipment? I'm not being naive to believe this cannot/did not ever happen but I would think they would lose all credibility if they pulled that kind of stunt and got caught out. But then again same could be said of getting doped up and many seem to still do that. So ... I'm just trying to separate perception/unproven opinion from proven occurrences. Don't believe CF would have done that on Sunday like some are suggesting.No one accused Froome of doing that. I said the leaders could too easily manipulate the situation.. There have been tactical bike changes in the past where a terrain changes during a stage and the riders change bike models. Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk
Gen Posted July 11, 2017 Posted July 11, 2017 Yes I did. That is why I said he knew about the mechanical. I tried to find a youtube clip but could not find one.BTW does anyone know what the mechical was.. cause they should have that seen to.. was it the electronic gears? Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk
kosmonooit Posted July 11, 2017 Posted July 11, 2017 Nibali attacked Froome in 2015 when Froome had a bike issue..think he also did the same at the Vuelta.. I remember something like that,.. Astana attacked Bert during the Giro when he had a bike issue. Seems to happen more frequently these days than previously or just more is made of it now than before, seems as if we are debating these things mire often lately.[emoji39] Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk And lest we forget when El Berto attacked The Andy when he dropped his chain, and claimed he never saw that
Gen Posted July 11, 2017 Posted July 11, 2017 Were you watching something I missed? All I saw yesterday was a rest day Dale's yesterday was your Sunday, he only watched it yesterday...so dale the lucky guy didn't suffer through a rest day. Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk
Transporter Posted July 11, 2017 Posted July 11, 2017 With all these little gentlemanly unwritten rules the TDF is like a paid club ride to the riders. If your ride falls apart it is tough. That is why the guy in yellow acts like a prima donna. TDF is a test for man and his machine. Now it looks like Pinarello's break.
Rocket-Boy Posted July 11, 2017 Posted July 11, 2017 Im pretty sure it was last year(or the one before) that Nibs attacked Froome when he had a stone stuck in his rear mech on the one narrow climb.Yup it was 2015 TdF on the Mont Vernier stage where Nibs attacked him and went on to win the stage.Mont Vernier though, what a climb! I really hope they put that beauty back in at some stage.
Gen Posted July 11, 2017 Posted July 11, 2017 And lest we forget when El Berto attacked The Andy when he dropped his chain, and claimed he never saw that You're a day late.. we discussed that yesterday.[emoji6] Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk
Rocket-Boy Posted July 11, 2017 Posted July 11, 2017 Dale's yesterday was your Sunday, he only watched it yesterday...so dale the lucky guy didn't suffer through a rest day. Sent from my SM-N9005 using TapatalkLucky bugger! yesterday was horrible for me, I was completely lost without a stage to watch.
Eugene Oppelt Posted July 11, 2017 Posted July 11, 2017 Lucky bugger! yesterday was horrible for me, I was completely lost without a stage to watch. Those withdrawal symptoms can feel like you're running a fever, super fanEish
Eugene Oppelt Posted July 11, 2017 Posted July 11, 2017 Another reason to like Kawasaki “I have pain everywhere today, but I was lucky to have no fractures at all. I cannot explain exactly what happened when I crashed. I didn’t break or anything, but my front wheel slipped away. Also Risto, our mechanic, almost fell when he arrived with the spare bike. There must have been some oil or something similar on the road. However, after the crash I suffered a lot. I want to thank my whole Bora-Hansgrohe team, everybody waited for me first, but we told Emanuel [buchmann] to go and save our chances in the GC, then Jay [McCarty] was with me and brought me up to the next bigger group. Also thanks to Michal Kwiatkowski who helped me in the end.” Majka, eina comments and somehow no fractures from his rest day
Gen Posted July 11, 2017 Posted July 11, 2017 This gem 23 years ago https://youtu.be/HmR9k8UAohs Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk
Eugene Oppelt Posted July 11, 2017 Posted July 11, 2017 “I’m not regretful at all about having ridden the Giro. It was a gamble, something different. We still have a lot to learn in cycling, and we will draw many positive and negative conclusions about these months in order to improve in the future. It’s true that I have ridden all of the last four Grand Tours, but I also enjoyed some good breaks, had a winter between them, stayed weeks away from competition between all of them – there’s of course many things we can improve, though. It’s the first time we ride both the Giro and the Tour in the same season – the Giro was really hard and the pace here at the Tour hasn’t been slow, either.” Quintana, rest day reflections
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