Wire bead tyre for tubeless?

[Whipme]

I have a bike with tubeless rims and tyres that is in need of new tyres. I also have a spare set of Maxxis Ignitor wire bead tyres that I'd like to use. I've read mixed reviews of using wire bead tyres for tubeless, and bike shops just want to sell me new tyres instead of fitting my existing ones.

 

Who has experience with this, is it a reasonable idea or will it end in tears? Because from what I can see the bead looks identical between the different types of tyres so it should just seal up and work without drama.

[m-squared]

Short answer yes you can. You may just want to put on an extra layer of liners to ensure the bead hold.

 

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[Khronis]

When i first changed to tubeless i just used the tyres that came with the bike which weren't tubeless ready , schwalbe rapid rob. They sealed up without any hassles and held pressure but only lasted a couple of rides before i got a huge gash on the sidewall.

 

I then fitted maxxis tubeless tyres and haven't had a problem since. I would rather fit proper tyres which have stronger sidewalls.

[Whipme]

Short answer yes you can. You may just want to put on an extra layer of liners to ensure the bead hold.

 

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When you say extra layer of liners do you mean the nylon rim strip tape? I'm considering doing this myself as a first pass and if I really struggle I'll just throw money at the problem and buy UST tyres

[m-squared]

When you say extra layer of liners do you mean the nylon rim strip tape? I'm considering doing this myself as a first pass and if I really struggle I'll just throw money at the problem and buy UST tyres

Sorry, bad phrasing. Put in a double layer of proper tubeless rim tape (gorilla tape works well). Not the nylon that comes with the rims. The reason is that you want the tape to help push the bead into the rim.

 

If you do some serious technical stuff, go for proper tubeless.

 

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[gummibear]

Short answer yes you can. You may just want to put on an extra layer of liners to ensure the bead hold.

 

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What do you mean by liners??

[gummibear]

I have a bike with tubeless rims and tyres that is in need of new tyres. I also have a spare set of Maxxis Ignitor wire bead tyres that I'd like to use. I've read mixed reviews of using wire bead tyres for tubeless, and bike shops just want to sell me new tyres instead of fitting my existing ones.

 

Who has experience with this, is it a reasonable idea or will it end in tears? Because from what I can see the bead looks identical between the different types of tyres so it should just seal up and work without drama.

Depends on the sidewall casing and wether it'll hold air.If there's a slight kink in the wire it won't seal.

 

My opinion is you going to be left stranded somewhere.

[m-squared]

What do you mean by liners??

I meant rim tape, not liners.

 

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[Whipme]

Depends on the sidewall casing and wether it'll hold air.If there's a slight kink in the wire it won't seal.

 

My opinion is you going to be left stranded somewhere.

 

Well I won't get stranded somewhere because I always carry spare tubes, but it'll be very inconvenient having to pull the valve out and pop a tube in.

 

Right now I'm just trying to not waste a perfectly good set of tyres that I have at home. Sounds like I should at least try it and see if it's a fail, might save me R1200 in tyres

[Mongoose!]

My first try a few years back to convert to tubeless was using my old wire bead tires.

It work - sealed - all fine

 

But ----

With my first race, they came off the rim....my m@er suur geval

 

My advice : just because it inflates does not meat it is safe

 

Will never go that route again

 

rather get proper tubeless tyres

[RobertWhitehead]

I currently have a set of MAXXIS Crossmark Lust on my bike:

 

Front: UST 

Rear: Wire bead

 

I ride every week and have to inflate the rear before evey ride but, that being said, the tire is about 5 years old. I had no issue seating the tire to the rim and I've not had any issues with it otherwise.

 

Yes I know, all of you are asking: 5 years old? Bollacks!!!

But let me give you the timeline:

• I bought a new bike in July of 2011
• I bought another bike in December of 2011 which had the set of MAXISS wirebead on them originally
• Upgraded to tubeless soon after that (around 2012): Bontrager XR2 tubeless ready to be exact - gave me over 4000km per tire
• Bought another set of XR2 and those gave me similar milage. 
• Early 2014 I bought 6 Vredenstein Killer Bee tires for R100 each
• I then used them in conjunction with the XR2's until 2015 where I built a new bike.
• In December of 2016 I bought a new MAXISS lust tire (Currently on the front) and took the old wirebead which has been lying in the wendy house since 2012 and placed them back onto my old bike and viola

[Whipme]

My Maxxis ignitor tyres are also relatively old but in great condition because they haven't seen much trail time. The tyres on the bike now, also Maxxis, are perished and leaking through the sidewall. So it's time to try something new.

[TALUS]

My first try a few years back to convert to tubeless was using my old wire bead tires.

It work - sealed - all fine

 

But ----

With my first race, they came off the rim....my m@er suur geval

 

My advice : just because it inflates does not meat it is safe

 

Will never go that route again

 

rather get proper tubeless tyres

This. My (wire bead) tyre came of the rim completely. Two broken ribs. Lying in the bush between rocks. Nobody for miles. Suddenly it wasn't a bargain anymore.

PS: You don't need UST, just Tubeless Ready. Big difference in cost and weight.

[scotty]

Well I won't get stranded somewhere because I always carry spare tubes, but it'll be very inconvenient having to pull the valve out and pop a tube in.

 

Right now I'm just trying to not waste a perfectly good set of tyres that I have at home. Sounds like I should at least try it and see if it's a fail, might save me R1200 in tyres

Cyclelab and CWC have specials on tyres, way less than R1200. 

[Prince Albert Cycles]

What is difference between tubeless ready and tubeless ?

[Whipme]

Cyclelab and CWC have specials on tyres, way less than R1200. 

 

I meant R1200 for two tyres. That seems to be the going rate in Pretoria at the moment