stefmeister Posted May 5, 2017 Share Does Spez really have that much proprietary bits? I recently built up a stumpie ht, with no proprietary parts. I know the brain in their forks/shocks is proprietary, but what else?142+ axlessuspension linkage yokerear shocks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchelicious Posted May 5, 2017 Share What about ethics, values and environmental reputation of the company? ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDL Posted May 5, 2017 Share So, if, hypothetically, it was Jacob Zuma's company, funded by the Guptas and paid for by Rhino horn, you wouldn't care, as long as it was cheap and effective? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kk6gan Posted May 5, 2017 Share So, if, hypothetically, it was Jacob Zuma's company, funded by the Guptas and paid for by Rhino horn, you wouldn't care, as long as it was cheap and effective?Hahahaa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchelicious Posted May 5, 2017 Share So, if, hypothetically, it was Jacob Zuma's company, funded by the Guptas and paid for by Rhino horn, you wouldn't care, as long as it was cheap and effective? Dreaming up subjectively supported, hypothetical, ethical and emotive scenarios to be used in a forum like this, is not going to end well. Where people draw their personal lines is about as personal and subjective as their believe choices: You will struggle to agree on almost anything. Do we then apply the same selection criteria on where we buy food, cars, which social media platforms we use. But to answer your question, do I take those criteria into account when making brand judgements, of course, everybody does. Just as a example, what Spez did to the guy in Durbanville, played a part in my decisions about them. Do I support Gupta, no, but do I pay my Eskom bill, yes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Nino Posted May 5, 2017 Share This is how brand loyal I am:BMC bikeFox forkRace Face barsThomson stemShimano brakes & pedalsSRAM shifters,grips,crankset,cassette, FD, RDSelle Italia saddleEaston seatpostSpank wheelsHope hubsVittoria front tyreMaxxis rear tyreTopeak mini pumpRyder valvesI forget what my bottle cages are but they are plastic black carbon-look ones, could be Specialised And this why I love bikes, you can mix and match anything you like. I bet those golf :eek:playing guys can't do this. Can anyone top my list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchelicious Posted May 5, 2017 Share This is how brand loyal I am:BMC bikeFox forkRace Face barsThomson stemShimano brakes & pedalsSRAM shifters,grips,crankset,cassette, FD, RDSelle Italia saddleEaston seatpostSpank wheelsHope hubsVittoria front tyreMaxxis rear tyreTopeak mini pumpRyder valvesI forget what my bottle cages are but they are plastic black carbon-look ones, could be Specialised And this why I love bikes, you can mix and match anything you like. I bet those golf :eek:playing guys can't do this. Can anyone top my list?Paris Hilton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewbacca Posted May 5, 2017 Share "Does it come in steel?" I am proud to own some of my bikes, but 'brand loyalty' is a thing for the wealthy. I will of course ride my Mercer with pride as David is a friend of mine but I can't afford another one! If it makes me weak at the knees and is more desirable than Mila Jojovic in her elastic outfit in 5th element (BIG badaboom in my pants) the price point comes second, but obviously within reason. I am a firm believer that a bike should make you want to ride it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchelicious Posted May 5, 2017 Share "Does it come in steel?" I am proud to own some of my bikes, but 'brand loyalty' is a thing for the wealthy. I will of course ride my Mercer with pride as David is a friend of mine but I can't afford another one! If it makes me weak at the knees and is more desirable than Mila Jojovic in her elastic outfit in 5th element (BIG badaboom in my pants) the price point comes second, but obviously within reason. I am a firm believer that that a bike should make you want to ride it... You're welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansolo Posted May 5, 2017 Share Interesting topic, I can see where you are going with this. I must admit, there is certain brands that are inherently more "cool" than others. I’ve had a Nishiki, a Univega, a few Konas, a Giant, a GT, a few Ragleys and currently have a Surly and Rocky Mountain. My buying decisions for most of these bikes was based on value (I was lucky enough to get a few deals along the way) and this trend will probably continue in future. I cannot really warrant spending the same amount of money on a frame vs. a complete bike (or in some cases a set of carbon wheels). I don't really have a LBS so this does not really influence my buying decision. I think it’s good that brands like YT is shaking up the market a bit, let’s hope the “cooler” brands also bring out better value bikes… To answer your question, I would change brand if I need a new bike and I can get a really good deal on a well specced bike that is (hopefully) a bit futureproof. I might consider getting a complete bike with a really good frame that I'm able to upgrade as my finances improve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffsVintageBikes Posted May 5, 2017 Share I'm not "brand" loyal, I'm "service level" loyal. When the dealer network cannot support their product & my needs sufficiently then I move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanD Posted May 5, 2017 Share This is how brand loyal I am:BMC bikeFox forkRace Face barsThomson stemShimano brakes & pedalsSRAM shifters,grips,crankset,cassette, FD, RDSelle Italia saddleEaston seatpostSpank wheelsHope hubsVittoria front tyreMaxxis rear tyreTopeak mini pumpRyder valvesI forget what my bottle cages are but they are plastic black carbon-look ones, could be Specialised And this why I love bikes, you can mix and match anything you like. I bet those golf :eek:playing guys can't do this. Can anyone top my list? Ping driver and woodsTaylormade ironsTitelest vokey wedgesPing putterSrixon glovesFJ shoesNike balls. Ha ha. Happy Friday lads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchelicious Posted May 5, 2017 Share Ping driver and woodsTaylormade ironsTitelest vokey wedgesPing putterSrixon glovesFJ shoesNike balls. Ha ha. Happy Friday ladsI didn't know the D stood for Deekhead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDL Posted May 5, 2017 Share Dreaming up subjectively supported, hypothetical, ethical and emotive scenarios to be used in a forum like this, is not going to end well. Where people draw their personal lines is about as personal and subjective as their believe choices: You will struggle to agree on almost anything. Do we then apply the same selection criteria on where we buy food, cars, which social media platforms we use. But to answer your question, do I take those criteria into account when making brand judgements, of course, everybody does. Just as a example, what Spez did to the guy in Durbanville, played a part in my decisions about them. Do I support Gupta, no, but do I pay my Eskom bill, yes... So, The question was around brand loyalty and I was just (humorously hopefully) measuring your boundary i.r.o. loyalty or otherwise. I have always sort of wondered about measuring companies on what they contribute and, more and more, I am starting to believe that, if we don't start to hold companies more to account for their behaviors, then we will continue the global downward spiral. Before you, quite rightly, point out my failings in this area, I am by no means claiming the moral high ground, just raising a point. It is not easy to be a consumer in this day and age and maintain any type of high ground, but perhaps we should all try a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Nino Posted May 5, 2017 Share didn't realise golf playing dudes used a bike forum for pass time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nox1111 Posted May 5, 2017 Share didn't realise golf playing dudes used a bike forum for pass timerain... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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