Mongoose! Posted June 17, 2017 Posted June 17, 2017 Does these Torq and CWC repair stands have a weight limit they can handle? Think my Pyga is about 13kg, will that be OK?Had heavier bikes on mine without any issues.
Mongoose! Posted June 17, 2017 Posted June 17, 2017 I always clamp the bikes on the top tube and only clamp on the seat post if it is a dual with no place to clamp on top tube (due to rear shock position).
Mongoose! Posted June 17, 2017 Posted June 17, 2017 R3500 for the Parktool PCS 10 from Olympic CyclesJoh.
ChrisF Posted June 17, 2017 Posted June 17, 2017 Joh. well the R 4 200 Momsen we bought for Maritz at Cycle4Life costs "only" R 5 000 at Olympic Cycles ..... but the advise they were giving a gent buying a full suspension bike got me so worried I rather left the shop ....
ChrisF Posted June 19, 2017 Posted June 19, 2017 Okay, so I bought the CWC stand on Saturday afternoon ... I have a fixed homemade stand for maintenance work IN the garage. The cheapy stand was bought to wash the bikes OUTSIDE the garage... First impressions :- It comes with the tool tray, and steering rod. Thus appears to be on par with the Torx unit, but at a lower price.- Clamp - the quick-clamp is nice .... once set to the right size, you might want to remove the clamp from the stand and set up the size on the ground first.- The hard plasticky surfaces of the clamp ... uhm ja ... bikes swings sideways. Okay that was the 20'' bike. The 29'' was hanging DOWN ....- Height adjustments. Works nice- 4xFeet ... uhm.. NO ! Being used to no feet around the bike this is a pain. The tripod setup of the Parktool type units makes much more sense now - feet under the bike and not in your way.- Stability .... OUCH ! If it swayed any more I would get sea-sick ! I removed the wheels to wash the bike .... putting it back turned into a "struggle" ... Eventually asked a friend to hold the bike steady while I refit the rear tire. Will try this again, a couple of times - hopefully I get the hang of fitting the tire with all the swaying of the frame. Certainly dont have this issue with my homebuilt stand. SUMMARY -The CWC stand is cheap. It offers a way to work on your bike without crawling around on the ground. But I now understand why so many people end up upgrading to a decent stand .... I will be using it to wash my bikes, but glad I have a better stand to use while working on my bike.
ChrisF Posted June 19, 2017 Posted June 19, 2017 Seat post. On the 20'' there are cables along the top-post, so dont want to clamp there - here the bike kept on turning sideways inside the clamp ... but minimal "stand-sway" ... On the 29'' the frame wont fit in the clamp. - Here the bike was hanging nose down, even with both tires removed. The whole stand had a lot of sway ..... Certainly better than crawling on the ground when working on your bike. And at 6x the price not many will buy the Parktool PCS10 .... But many will upgrade soon enough ....
L.T.G Posted June 19, 2017 Posted June 19, 2017 I bought a Tork Craft ages ago, doesn't get used often, just once a week for washing my bikes, no hassles so far.
daniemare Posted June 19, 2017 Posted June 19, 2017 Tork - R880 - http://shop.technopro.co.za/tork-craft-bicycle-repair-work-storage-stand-compact-bike-p-17787.html ParkTool PC9 - R 2 300 - https://www.evobikes.co.za/park-tool-home-mechanic-repair-stand.html and that is without the steer-rod and tool tray of the R880 Tork .... EDIT - The CWC unit comes with a tool tray and steer-rod.... so very much the same as the Tork unit ... but it sells for R599.Psc 9 +- R1600 landed on Chain Reaction Cycles
Eugene Brown Posted June 19, 2017 Posted June 19, 2017 Okay, so I bought the CWC stand on Saturday afternoon ... I have a fixed homemade stand for maintenance work IN the garage. The cheapy stand was bought to wash the bikes OUTSIDE the garage... First impressions :- It comes with the tool tray, and steering rod. Thus appears to be on par with the Torx unit, but at a lower price.- Clamp - the quick-clamp is nice .... once set to the right size, you might want to remove the clamp from the stand and set up the size on the ground first.- The hard plasticky surfaces of the clamp ... uhm ja ... bikes swings sideways. Okay that was the 20'' bike. The 29'' was hanging DOWN ....- Height adjustments. Works nice- 4xFeet ... uhm.. NO ! Being used to no feet around the bike this is a pain. The tripod setup of the Parktool type units makes much more sense now - feet under the bike and not in your way.- Stability .... OUCH ! If it swayed any more I would get sea-sick ! I removed the wheels to wash the bike .... putting it back turned into a "struggle" ... Eventually asked a friend to hold the bike steady while I refit the rear tire. Will try this again, a couple of times - hopefully I get the hang of fitting the tire with all the swaying of the frame. Certainly dont have this issue with my homebuilt stand. SUMMARY -The CWC stand is cheap. It offers a way to work on your bike without crawling around on the ground. But I now understand why so many people end up upgrading to a decent stand .... I will be using it to wash my bikes, but glad I have a better stand to use while working on my bike.My experience too, but with the Tork Craft. It's OK, but not really what you hoped for.Must say though, even the Park Tool stands are not exactly rock solid and reliable when you fit the rear wheel. It is a bit of a saga....
shaper Posted June 19, 2017 Posted June 19, 2017 Seat post. On the 20'' there are cables along the top-post, so dont want to clamp there - here the bike kept on turning sideways inside the clamp ... but minimal "stand-sway" ... On the 29'' the frame wont fit in the clamp. - Here the bike was hanging nose down, even with both tires removed. The whole stand had a lot of sway ..... Certainly better than crawling on the ground when working on your bike. And at 6x the price not many will buy the Parktool PCS10 .... But many will upgrade soon enough .... Try shortening the horizontal arm with the clamp so that the bike is closer to the stand... should reduce your sway considerably
ChrisF Posted June 19, 2017 Posted June 19, 2017 My experience too, but with the Tork Craft. It's OK, but not really what you hoped for.Must say though, even the Park Tool stands are not exactly rock solid and reliable when you fit the rear wheel. It is a bit of a saga.... Thanks for the extra feedback - helps to put it in context. Thankfully my home made one, with its hanging tripod stabiiser, is VERY sturdy Guess it will take a bit of practice to figure out how the handle the tire while holding the frame steady ...
ChrisF Posted June 19, 2017 Posted June 19, 2017 Try shortening the horizontal arm with the clamp so that the bike is closer to the stand... should reduce your sway considerably Thanks, will try this. Will play with a few variables and see how to improve the feel of the stand ...
ChrisF Posted June 19, 2017 Posted June 19, 2017 then - https://community.bikehub.co.za/topic/147580-cwc-online-cwc-bicycle-repair-stand/ now - http://www.cwcycles.co.za/product/cwc-bicycle-repair-stand The "competition" .... https://www.cogentindustries.co.za/product/tork-craft-bike-repair-stand/
i24 Posted June 19, 2017 Posted June 19, 2017 I bought a Tork Craft stand a couple of years ago on a special at the CTCT expo. I paid under R500. It is an intriguing thing to have around. For example, it makes an excellent stand for holding a water bottle rocket launcher. But as a bicycle work stand, I got what I paid for. As soon as the centre of gravity of the bike moves too far away from the clamp, it slips until a wheel touches the ground, or something worse happens. With my Anthem 29'r I can clamp the top tube (carefully cause the tube is not clamp friendly). But then I cannot remove a wheel without it loosing balance. If I clamp the seat post, it is very unstable. I have a Thule adaptor for hanging my wife's bike on the hanging car rack, that works well to hang it on the Tork stand too, but I cannot take off the wheels as it upsets the centre of gravity. But I have long since learned that the easiest way to work on bicycle is to turn it upside down. You need something to put under each grip and maybe something under the saddle (I have some bespoke pieces of polystyrene foam for this). You can work on most of the bike upside down. It is much easier to remove wheels when it is upside. You can do some simple "wheel building" work too. Works perfectly for washing bikes, carrying a few pieces of polystyrene from the garage to the driveway is much easier than a bike stand. I only use the Tork stand for working on things that cannot be done on an upside down bike, like adjusting derailleurs and fiddling with hydraulic brakes. If I need to work on a bike on the stand with the wheels off, I turn it upside down, take the wheels off, then lift the frame onto the Tork stand.
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