This is why cyclists keep dying

[Butterbean]

http://m.news24.com/news24/SouthAfrica/News/cape-town-drunk-driver-five-times-over-limit-at-0530-20170714

 

How much of a c*nt must you be to get proper pissed, and then decide that driving is not only an option, but the best one???

 

How many of the latest cycle related incidents have been early morning? Why is the judiciary so lenient when it comes to sentencing these f*ckwits?

[2bliss]

http://m.news24.com/news24/SouthAfrica/News/cape-town-drunk-driver-five-times-over-limit-at-0530-20170714

 

How much of a c*nt must you be to get proper pissed, and then decide that driving is not only an option, but the best one???

 

How many of the latest cycle related incidents have been early morning? Why is the judiciary so lenient when it comes to sentencing these f*ckwits?

 

Unfortunately, this is, and always will be a problem.  The random breathalyzer testing will help a bit (only 20% is Australia), but alcoholics who are "off the wagon" will drink any time of the day or night.  Then, being properly drunk does not lead to good decision making.

 

I'm not defending illegal behaviour, merely pointing out that it will take radical action to try and remedy it.  Even if perpetrators have their licenses revoked, it will make little difference as there are countless thousands of unlicensed drivers on our roads.  (Or licenses are obtained illegally thanks to corruption.)

[dave303e]

There are far to many reasons cyclists die on our roads, unlicenced drivers, unroadworthy vehicles, using cellphone while driving, cycling like an idiot, taxis disregard for the law and all of the above mentioned are concious decisions made without the influence of alcohol and drugs. I do think that the amount of drunk drivers is far outnumbered by 'sorry I didn't see you I was on my phone'/shouting at kids in back seat/ driving in yellow line to get through trafiic etc etc. 

[Sitting@89]

^this

[Capricorn]

http://m.news24.com/news24/SouthAfrica/News/cape-town-drunk-driver-five-times-over-limit-at-0530-20170714

 

How much of a c*nt must you be to get proper pissed, and then decide that driving is not only an option, but the best one???

 

How many of the latest cycle related incidents have been early morning? Why is the judiciary so lenient when it comes to sentencing these f*ckwits?

 

yes, agreed.Which makes me vrek apprehensive to go out early morning along the coast to chappies etc.

 

but have you to seen the Iambusycheckingmyphone swerve and the driver aint even drunk? I think that's a bigger risk than a blatantly drunk driver because busywithphone+driving is way more prevalent than drunk driving. It's so much easier to detect, yet almost never policed. *smh* (not intending to derail the topic. the two are very much intertwined, cos with a mobile, you don't have to be drunk to drive like one).

[Butterbean]

yes, agreed.Which makes me vrek apprehensive to go out early morning along the coast to chappies etc.

 

but have you to seen the Iambusycheckingmyphone swerve and the driver aint even drunk? I think that's a bigger risk than a blatantly drunk driver because busywithphone+driving is way more prevalent than drunk driving. It's so much easier to detect, yet almost never policed. *smh* (not intending to derail the topic. the two are very much intertwined, cos with a mobile, you don't have to be drunk to drive like one).

You're right. Mobile use related road deaths have now outnumbered drink driving related ones in the states. I'm sure our collision rates have followed suit.

 

And this wasnt to say that ONLY drink driving is responsible, but Jesus the fact that people can be so flippantly irresponsible and selfish is so disgusting. I can only hope for change, but nowadays? Dunno so much.

[dave303e]

You're right. Mobile use related road deaths have now outnumbered drink driving related ones in the states. I'm sure our collision rates have followed suit.

 

And this wasnt to say that ONLY drink driving is responsible, but Jesus the fact that people can be so flippantly irresponsible and selfish is so disgusting. I can only hope for change, but nowadays? Dunno so much.

 

And your thoughts on Strava segments on highways where it is illegal to cycle?

We do need to remember this works both ways...

[Butterbean]

And your thoughts on Strava segments on highways where it is illegal to cycle?

We do need to remember this works both ways...

Yes. While I agree with your sentiment, youust understand that the risk to others is not equally shared. So, when a driver is texting, drunk, or negligent, it could end up with many people dead or permanently disabled. And many times without the driver suffering serious injury.

 

But, whatever a cyclist could do wrong, it will almost never end in tragedy for someone else because of his selfishness.

 

See what I'm saying??

 

I don't at all advocate cyclists breaking rules but you have to understand the risks involved, and the selfishness that puts others lives in danger.

[Tristand]

Unfortunately, this is, and always will be a problem.  The random breathalyzer testing will help a bit (only 20% is Australia), but alcoholics who are "off the wagon" will drink any time of the day or night.  Then, being properly drunk does not lead to good decision making.

 

I'm not defending illegal behaviour, merely pointing out that it will take radical action to try and remedy it.  Even if perpetrators have their licenses revoked, it will make little difference as there are countless thousands of unlicensed drivers on our roads.  (Or licenses are obtained illegally thanks to corruption.)

It may not solve the problem but you have to start somewhere and chip away at it.