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Drivetrain Sram...maybe not the earlier 10 speed components, but the newer 11 speed and 12 speed drivetrains are fantastic. Brakes........Magura or Hope...sorry

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In terms of drivetrain Sram is a bitahead if Shimano in terms of innovation, but bith work equally well.

 

In terms of brakes, many people have reported issues with Sram in heat, but Sram seems to provide better modulation than Shimano (my opinion). But once again, both work very well.

 

What would I spend my money on? Sram for drivetrain, neither of them for brakes.

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My 4 year old MTB is Shimano/Fox (duely) setup. My newest purchase is SRAM/RockShox...55km in and both brands work well and no major difference,however, the SRAM doesn't have a trigger (finger) shifter setup, for the rear derailleur, as the Shimano has so it has taken a while to get used to the SRAM shifter which uses just the thumb for shifting high/low.

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Lager or pilsner? Ale or weiss? Sauvignon or chenin? Pinotage or merlot? Etc...etc...etc

 

Matter or personal opinion and preference. If you have only ever used one then try the other. You won't know if you don't try. I like both. Shimano is great, Sram is great.

 

Seeing as how you ask for opinion. SLX is great, XT is great, GX is great, NX is great, X1 is great etc...I had formula rx brakes, thought they were great, now I have SLX, they are awesome. Used to have SLX, XT and XTR, now I have X1 drivetrain and they all work very well.

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Lager or pilsner? Ale or weiss? Sauvignon or chenin? Pinotage or merlot? Etc...etc...etc

 

Matter or personal opinion and preference. If you have only ever used one then try the other. You won't know if you don't try. I like both. Shimano is great, Sram is great.

 

Seeing as how you ask for opinion. SLX is great, XT is great, GX is great, NX is great, X1 is great etc...I had formula rx brakes, thought they were great, now I have SLX, they are awesome. Used to have SLX, XT and XTR, now I have X1 drivetrain and they all work very well.

Excellent analogy. And thoroughly accurate. One is not better than the other.

 

Honda or VW? BMW or Merc? Personal preference rules.

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I stick to Shimano on my MTB as I do not like the 1X trend. Gear jumps are too big. Weight savings are negligible. Reliability, well I keep my bike and gears clean so I never have shifting issues. I can climb well enough with my current ratios. And can shift onto my 40T when the 1X's are spinning out on the downs. And I don't need to list semi-used rings on the used market because i need to go up or down 2 teeth in size. I can just shift rings for that. And I also don't have a dinner plate on my rear wheel. So yeah. 

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In terms of drivetrain Sram is a bitahead if Shimano in terms of innovation, but bith work equally well.

 

In terms of brakes, many people have reported issues with Sram in heat, but Sram seems to provide better modulation than Shimano (my opinion). But once again, both work very well.

 

What would I spend my money on? Sram for drivetrain, neither of them for brakes.

There are those that might disagree. I am one of those. I find removing bits off of a drivetrain and calling it innovation to be a lie. One size doesn't fit all in my opinion. And neither does 1x. But manufacturers seem intent on forcing 1X on everyone. And I would say with DI2 starting to trickle down, (now at XT level hopefully with the next product cycle we can see it trickle to 105/SLX level) I would say Shimano is doing a good job at innovating. 

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Shimano has been standing still for years while sram dominates, all shimano does these days is XT this XT that and its getting old???? please reinvent yourselfs

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There are those that might disagree. I am one of those. I find removing bits off of a drivetrain and calling it innovation to be a lie. One size doesn't fit all in my opinion. And neither does 1x. But manufacturers seem intent on forcing 1X on everyone. And I would say with DI2 starting to trickle down, (now at XT level hopefully with the next product cycle we can see it trickle to 105/SLX level) I would say Shimano is doing a good job at innovating.

Wait till u 1x, I would quit cycling if I ever see a front Derailleur near my Santa!

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Wait till u 1x, I would quit cycling if I ever see a front Derailleur near my Santa!

Ive tried it and I hated it. Gear jumps were horrible. Its so jarring. I can fine tune literally any ratio I want from my bike by switching to a bigger or smaller ring and jumping around a bit on the cassette. If the difference between two cogs is a bit too great I can mix it up with the front end and fine tune it at the rear. You cant do that on a 1X. If the difference between two cogs is too big. Well sorry for you cause the rear is all you got. 

 

And again I don't need to sell entire chainrings if my bike comes with chainrings that are too big or too small for me. I don't have that issue. Honestly whats the issue with the front derailleur anyway? Front shifting at least from Shimano's side has always been stellar. I've always found Srams front shifting performance to be lacking by comparison on road and mtb. Maybe that is why Sram is doing it. Can't get the FD right. So they tuck tail and run instead.  

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Ive tried it and I hated it. Gear jumps were horrible. Its so jarring. I can fine tune literally any ratio I want from my bike by switching to a bigger or smaller ring and jumping around a bit on the cassette. If the difference between two cogs is a bit too great I can mix it up with the front end and fine tune it at the rear. You cant do that on a 1X. If the difference between two cogs is too big. Well sorry for you cause the rear is all you got.

 

And again I don't need to sell entire chainrings if my bike comes with chainrings that are too big or too small for me. I don't have that issue. Honestly whats the issue with the front derailleur anyway? Front shifting at least from Shimano's side has always been stellar. I've always found Srams front shifting performance to be lacking by comparison on road and mtb. Maybe that is why Sram is doing it. Can't get the FD right. So they tuck tail and run instead.

A couple of years ago Sram got rid of 3x and went 2x while Shimano stuck to the 3x game, and many had the exact argument you have now. History is just repeating itself. 1x took a couple of years to get right, but with Eagle 1x12 gear jumps are small, range is perfect, and shifting is excellent. Give it another 2 years and Shimano will be purely 1x as well, just like they followed Srams lead and went 2x for all their major groupsets a couple years back....

 

And in all honesty, with the right Cassette, the jumps in 1x are not big at all. And on top of all of this, I don't support 1x for the weight saving. I support it for the following:

 

- Simplicity, only easier or harder.

- No big jump in gears when going to smaller cog on hill. With 2x you cruise along in your big ring, then hit the hill, switxh over to the small ring, spin like crazy for a few seconds while frantically shifting to a hrder gear on your cassette, not an issue at all with 1x.

- Chains can be the right length with 1x eliminating chain slap.

- No cross chaining can take place.

- There is now space for a droper post lever, unlike 2x and the horrible levers associated therewith.

- My cockpit is neater.

- One less thing to maintain.

- I can use an oval ring instead of round rings - not for everyone, but I love it.

- I can run a chain device with a nice bash guard which is not possible with 2x.

- Frames can be designed with shorter chainstays, for an enduro/AM bike it is a major advantage.

 

I'm not bashing 2x - just giving my reasoning for going 1x. If 2x works for you stick with it - I just think some of the points are moot with the new Eagle 1x12 having just been released.

 

Of course, the other option is to get an e-bike, then we can all go 1x7 haha (read with sarcasm please).

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