Please explain these nr’s to me.

[Pieter1]

Howzit.

I’m looking at two bikes. I’m lost as to what the angles, hights and lengths mean. How is that going to affect me as a rider? I see there are only small differences in the numbers. How does it make the two bikes different in terms of the feel. Also you can change the geo with some switch thats why some of them have two sets of nrs.

 

 

Thanks

[BaGearA]

Slider will handle steep stuff much better and be very stable at high speed 

 

Surface will actually do all the same but not as good 

 

 

The Silder is one hell of a bike tho 

[Pieter1]

Slider will handle steep stuff much better and be very stable at high speed

 

Surface will actually do all the same but not as good

 

 

The Silder is one hell of a bike tho

Hahaha! How do these nrs tell you that? How well will it climb tho?

[TheJ]

Hahaha! How do these nrs tell you that? How well will it climb tho?

The head angles give their true nature away. If you are concerned about climbing you are probably more a marathon type rider than an enduro tipe. I'd recommend the Surface in that case.

[Pieter1]

The head angles give their true nature away. If you are concerned about climbing you are probably more a marathon type rider than an enduro tipe. I'd recommend the Surface in that case.

So steeper is better for climbing? I ride like 1 mabey 0,5 marathons a year the other 99-99,5% I just screw around (on the bike).

[BaGearA]

Hahaha! How do these nrs tell you that? How well will it climb tho?

the slacker headangle means the front axle is further infront of the handle bar which translates into more control 

 

the seatangle is still steep and the same as the surface so climbing wise the long travel bike will climb very similar to the more tame bike

 

Interpreting the all those numbers would probably require A mechanical engineering degree but most of them you can learn about quick with A google search

 

for example the surafce has A slightly longer chain stay which is common on xc bikes cause you want to sit in the middle of the bike as much as possible for mashing those pedal stokes , the enduro bike has a shorter stay cause riders will want to get over the rear axle and get the bike through corners as fast as possible 

 

** The surface actually has quite short stays , they're only longer when compared to the slider , i was making the argument to help make my point 

 

Next BB height , first of all the two numbers correspond to how high the bottom bracket  is off the ground when the bike is static and unweighted and the second number is when the suspension is fully compressed , now you want it as low as possible without hitting the crank arms on the ground ( known in the industry as A " pedal strike " ) the reason being to have A low centre of gravity which will help with connering and keeping control at high speed over rough sections 

 

 

for now that's all I'll explain 

 

 

for A beginer try to understand the following ( they might not make much sense to you right now but in a few moths time you'll be explaining it to your friends like am I am to you right now )

 

Head angle 

Seat tube angle 

Chainstay length

BB drop

 

Bonus round :

 

Reach

[Pieter1]

the slacker headangle means the front axle is further infront of the handle bar which translates into more control

 

the seatangle is still steep and the same as the surface so climbing wise the long travel bike will climb very similar to the more tame bike

 

Interpreting the all those numbers would probably require A mechanical engineering degree but most of them you can learn about quick with A google search

 

for example the surafce has A slightly longer chain stay which is common on xc bikes cause you want to sit in the middle of the bike as much as possible for mashing those pedal stokes , the enduro bike has a shorter stay cause riders will want to get over the rear axle and get the bike through corners as fast as possible

 

** The surface actually has quite short stays , they're only longer when compared to the slider , i was making the argument to help make my point

 

Next BB height , first of all the two numbers correspond to how high the bottom bracket is off the ground when the bike is static and unweighted and the second number is when the suspension is fully compressed , now you want it as low as possible without hitting the crank arms on the ground ( known in the industry as A " pedal strike " ) the reason being to have A low centre of gravity which will help with connering and keeping control at high speed over rough sections

 

 

for now that's all I'll explain

 

 

for A beginer try to understand the following ( they might not make much sense to you right now but in a few moths time you'll be explaining it to your friends like am I am to you right now )

 

Head angle

Seat tube angle

Chainstay length

BB drop

 

Bonus round :

 

Reach

Awesome man! Thanks! I’m sitting here reading about bikes looking at bikes trying to figure out what will work for me but I had pretty much no idea what all the angles and lengths translate to.

[porqui]

What type of riding are you most likely to do most often?

[King_Crispy]

Where you planning on riding?

Different story if it's running away from camels.

Much more fun bombing down delta...

[Pieter1]

Where you planning on riding?

Different story if it's running away from camels.

Much more fun bombing down delta...

Hahahaha! Ja these thngs are faster than I imagined. Apparently there are some lekker trails in the UAE. Will head out there as soon as I sort myself out with a bike.

[Pieter1]

What type of riding are you most likely to do most often?

Stuffing around. I want to do the odd Enduro race but for the most of my riding I just goof around. So while I’m not to worried about climbing I don’t want to die doing it.

[Desi]

Here's an article that I found helpful on this stuff:

https://www.singletracks.com/blog/mtb-gear/is-there-a-consensus-on-ideal-trail-bike-geometry-top-brands-compared/

[Odinson]

If you're dead set between those two, then the Slider LT will definitely be the more competent of the two in terms of dealing with the rough stuff!

[Pieter1]

If you're dead set between those two, then the Slider LT will definitely be the more competent of the two in terms of dealing with the rough stuff!

Not dead set but they suit my budget and are the kind of bike I’m looking at.